Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process"): > What case? Ian raised a bunch of general questions about how we plan on > enforcing our CoC, with no reference to any specific incident. You seem > to be convinced that this is about some specific incident and, further, > about forcing some specific action about that specific incident, but so > far as I can tell, this belief on your part is not based on anything > that's been said in this mailing list.
It would be disingenous of me to say that my message isn't prompted by a specific incident. For obvious reasons I haven't explained what that incident is. I'm assuming that Russ hasn't seen my other message about this, on another forum. I hope that regardless of your opinions about the specific incident, you would support the ideas that: - If we have a CoC it should be enforced. That includes taking action on justified complaints, and dismissing unjustified ones. - It should be clear who is responsible for decisionmaking about CoC complaints. Complaints sent somewhere else should be passed to the decisionmakers (with the complainant's consent, of course). - CoC enforcement should not depend on whether the alleged violator is politically important. - Those responsible for CoC enforcement should have some examples to help them make their decisions.[1] - CoC decisionmaking should not involve the DPL or the press team. (The press team should of course be involved to help with drafting, once the general substance of public statement has been decided on; and to help if a CoC dispute becomes a matter of public discourse.) - CoC decisionmaking regarding events at a conference should be done promptly and in person if possible - specifically, without needing to involve people who are far away and in the wrong timezone. - CoC decisionmakers should have guidelines helping them decide whether and when to take any public action, and what information (if any) to pass on to (which) future event organisers.[1] - CoC decisionmakers should have guidelines about whether to inform complainants of the outcome of a complaint. (I think the complainant should almost always be informed of the outcome but even if you disagree surely the actual practice should be agreed, rather than made up on the fly.) [1] [1] The presence of guidelines, including examples, is important because these decisions are often difficult and controversial. Unsupported decisionmaking in such situations typically results in delay, the consideration of irrelevant factors, the failure to consider all relevant factors, a reluctance to take positive action of any kind, and, ultimately, poor decisions. Perhaps if we had had clear authority, and those in authority had the support of guidelines answering these kinds of questions, I would have had a response saying that my complaint had been considered, but wasn't considered justified. I would have found that disappointing but I wouldn't have felt the need to pursue it. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/21511.22008.396527.517...@chiark.greenend.org.uk