No,it's not that... Em sex., 29 de nov. de 2024 13:18, Linux User #330250 < linuxuser330...@gmx.net> escreveu:
> Hey, Leo, what is your problem? > > On 29th November 2024, 16:12, Leo Historias wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > > De: Leo Historias <leohistoriasanima...@gmail.com> > > Date: qui., 28 de nov. de 2024 16:21 > > Subject: Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated > > To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> > > Cc: debian-powerpc <debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org> > > > > > > Thanks for the update. > > > > Still,I wanna hear if there's any progress on Firefox PPC32 > > port,specifically the Node.js port for 32 bit PowerPC.That dependency of > > Firefox has been ported to i386/32 bits,and this made Firefox work. > > However,that's not currently ported to PPC32,right? > > > > Specifically after your wrote this: > > On 17th September 2024, 16:35, Leo Historias wrote: > > Ah, I see. So you guys won't port the dependencies right now due to > > manpower. And you explained it well. So that's why you guys won't bring > > Firefox 115esr to powerpc yet until you bring node.js,which became a > > requirement 1 year ago. > > > > > > And thanks for clarifying I'm not too young,i will contribute later. > > Is it your desire to add your e-mail address to a spam filter? Because > you're right on target for that to happen... > > @Adrian and all the others still working on PPC32 and PPC64: BIG BIG > thanks! Your work is very hard for a very few still using this > architecture, so thank you so much! > > I myself have stopped running my PowerMacs due to time constraints, but > they're waiting for me, probably for my retirement. The problem is that > by then most likely no current Linux will exist anymore. > > I just read that CHRP will be removed from the Linux kernel with one of > the next releases. The next release is 6.13, so maybe this one? > > https://lwn.net/Articles/998180/ > > "No Apple machines should be affected." Great, and hopefully so, > although I remember that some CHRP stuff was loaded by the Linux kernel > on my PowerMac back in the day. > > About Firefox I can only say that I feel the same thing as you describe, > Adrian, when you say that the current version isn't really usable on a > single-core system such as a G4. Even on a Dual-G4 or a Dual-G5, > TenFourFox for Mac OS X was very VERY slow... The latest versions of > Firefox are way too bloated for such hardware, so maybe we need to > realize that keeping a completely current userland on PPC32/64-based > Linux is no longer possible. A lot of projects have moved on and even > when the code compiles, it clearly isn't meant to run on such old > machines. This does include some older Pentiums and Core Duos I also > still lave laying around in my basement. > > Which brings me to my final question: what could be viable replacement > applications for using an old 32-bit machine on the Internet? > What's a lightweight alternative for: > 1) Gnome or KDE > 2) Thunderbird > 3) Firefox > 4) LibreOffice > 5) GIMP > and so on... Because almost all of those projects are "no fun" on two > decade old systems and older. > > And: maybe a specific version of Debian Linux is necessary for "legacy > systems" rather than trying to keep it all current for everybody. Maybe > a PPC64 system needs other software than a PPC32 system. And as well for > i386 and so on. > > Just my 2ยข. > And THANK YOU Adrian and all others, who still work on and contribute to > PPC32 and PPC64! > > Apologies for this long posting, > and representing Leo without his knowledge and consent, for Leo and what > he wrote, because this clearly isn't the right way to talk to hard > working developers and maintainers. I hope you accept it from me instead. > > Linux User #330250 > >
