On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 11:05:34AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 09/30/2017 08:11 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> > It’s comforting that “remove yaboot” only means remove it from unstable. I
> > did not
> > understand that point. Thanks for explaining.
>
> Ok, good.
>
> > I’ll be glad to test anything you can produce on my G4 desk side machines
> > (a couple of
> > models you did not list as being in your own stable) as well as the
> > PowerMac G5 7,3 I’ve
> > been testing on up til now.
>
> I will provide the images later today or tomorrow. I have to wait for the
> mirrors to sync.
>
> > Please explain one more time — I’m sorry I haven’t understood the details
> > yet — the
> > filesystem partitioning requirements for booting a PowerPC machine with
> > Grub. I’m still
> > not clear as to how those requirements conflict with the requirements for
> > Yaboot. Sorry
> > for being so obtuse!
>
> GRUB requires an OFFS partition to be mounted to /boot. Yaboot requires to be
> mounted to
> /boot using ext2 or a crippled version of ext4 mounted to /. Both Yaboot
> requirements
> are incompatible with GRUB.
What's OFFS?
And how people who already have a partitioned disk and want to keep at
least their /home partition will be able to upgrade?
Yes, I know, backup first, but if restoring can be avoided...
Gabriel
>
> This is all just about the default partitioning during install and providing
> Yaboot as
> an option during install. I want the default partitioning to be tailored to
> GRUB
> as the bootloader and I want to get rid of any workarounds and quirks
> necessary
> for Yaboot.
>
> If someone really feels the need for using Yaboot, they can still install it
> after
> installing with debian-installer if they feel nostalgic. Although I still
> don't
> see a point with using Yaboot when it's no longer maintained, neither in
> Debian
> nor upstream. And I don't want to wait to the point until something breaks.
>
> Being able to throw out Yaboot also means less maintenance burden to the
> maintainers,
> keeping the software is not free as you could see with the necessary
> workaround
> for ext4.
>
> Adrian
>
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