Hello Mike,

On 12/08/2024 18:40, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:
El 12/08/24 a las 00:27, Mike Gabriel escribió:
On  So 11 Aug 2024 12:57:23 CEST, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 11:19:24AM -0300, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:
El 31/05/22 a las 05:42, Mike Gabriel escribió:
On  Mo 30 Mai 2022 20:04:14 CEST, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
Am Sun, May 29, 2022 at 09:36:43AM +0200 schrieb Salvatore Bonaccorso:
While this is discouraged in general, we could opt here for this, to
avoid that ckeditor3 might get additional users outside of
php-horde-editor.

This would also mean that only those bits of ckeditor3 which are
actually
used by Horde need to be updated.

I read that embedding is ok with the security team for the
exceptional case
php-horde-editor. I will put this on my todo list for the next
Horde update
round (which is already overdue).

AFAICS on tracker.d.o, php-horde-editor hasn't been updated since then,
so I guess the situation is the same than when buster was becoming LTS.

I wonder if there is any action that could be made for bullseye and
bookworm. Is there a way to limit the ckeditor3 security support to
only cover the usage with php-horde-editor?

Horde is pretty much unmaintained. php-horde-mime-viewer and php-horde-turba
are in dsa-needed.txt for a long time, but pings were never replied to
either.

It seems best to drop Horde (and ckeditor3 alongside) from testing.

I will take a look at this the coming week or the week after (when I will
have plenty of time for Debian stuff).

For ckeditor3, I will drop the symlinking of ckeditor3 and use the bundled
version instead (which currently gets removed). I will also check the diff
between Horde's bundled version of ckeditor3 and the version we have in
Debian and amend things if needed.

Regarding the nearly-non-maintenance state of Horde: Horde hasn't been
ported to PHP 8, yet. One of the upstream devs is working on that, but there
are not official releases, yet. I will ping them about the current status.

OK, that is for debian testing, right? Mike, any thought about bullseye?
I am finding hard to find arguments to keep it supported, but I would
like to hear from you (or from somebody else in the LTS Team) :-) ?

Mike, could you please save me some time and point me to the bundled
version of ckeditor3?

Mike,

Has there been news on horde* and ckeditor3? :)

If not I believe it's best we drop support for these packages in bullseye.

Cheers!
Sylvain Beucler
Debian LTS Team
(Front-Desk this week)

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