Stefano Zacchiroli wrote at 03:14 (EDT): > So, I wonder, do we have any idea (due to them having already been > mentioned publicly elsewhere) about the craziest interpretation of > AGPL that the "evil guys" might come up with and, at the other end of > the spectrum, the most restrictive one?
> AFAIK AGPL hasn't been tested in court, yet. I continue to believe that the "tested in Court" standard is highly overrated. It's useful, but it's not the litmus test. The main issue is that very little non-litigation AGPLv3 enforcement has ever happened, AFAIK. Status.Net did some on its codebase; I've helped do some on Pokersource's codebase. Other than that, I'm not aware of any. > But I can't help wondering what people are really scared about here. I think folks are scared because it's an unknown. We've lived with inappropriate GPLv2 aggression from companies like MySQL AB (now Oracle) for at least a decade now, so we have a good sense of the tricks and manipulations. I think AGPLv3 is much better in this regard because it has GPLv3's much more forgiving Termination provision.... > Is it the quine scenario (IMHO ruled out by the license text, but > obviously you never know...) that people fear to have to implement, > worrying about the fact that simply providing URLs to tarballs wouldn't > be considered enough? ... however, admittedly, AGPLv3 is a stronger copyleft than GPLv3 (requiring the thing that Stefano describes), and thus it's easier to make minor violations, and a company like Oracle might get aggressive. But, I agree with you Stefano: these worries are speculation based on past behavior by Oracle, more than they are certainties, which is why I think the fork-under-AGPLv3 proposal is enough of a hedge to prevent any serious problems. But that's a speculative remedy on my part about the speculative problem herein discussed. :) -- -- bkuhn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ppuyguwu....@ebb.org
