On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Matteo Cypriani <m...@lm7.fr> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thomas Preud'homme (CC'ed) and myself are currently packaging Salut à Toi,
> an
> XMPP-based communication system (see ITP #703659), and part of it is media
> files, including a French tarot deck. This deck is of a classical design
> that
> corresponds to the Piatnik deck originally published by Piatnik & Söhne
> [P&S].
>

> The upstream author of Salut à Toi, Jérôme Poisson (CC'ed), picked the
> files
> on Wikimedia Commons, but they have since been deleted for copyright
> reasons
> [DEL]. Since the arguments were not very clear and Jérôme was convinced the
> design was old enough to fall into the public domain, he asked for an
> undeletion request [UNDEL] with some new arguments, but it was refused.
> Subsequently, the remaining cards of the same design, such as [TN], have
> been
> marked for deletion on Commons.
>
> My questions are:
> 1. Can we introduce these file in Debian despite the decision made on
> Commons?
> 2. Do you have any advice for us to be sure that these images are in the
> public domain, or that they're not?
>

Do the copyright check yourself.  Do you know of an online resource that
shows a Piatnik deck with a rough publishing date, so they can be used for
comparison?

You might find a close substitute desks in the following collection. CC:ing
pysolffc project maintainer and contributor as xe may know the copyright
status of the desk you are interested in.

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/pysolfc-cardsets/+copyright



> Thanks in advance for your help,
>
>   Matteo
>
> P.S.: Please CC Jérôme, Thomas and me if you answer to this email, as we
> are
> not subscribed to the list.
>
> [P&S] Piatnik & Söhne on Wikipedia:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piatnik_&_Söhne
>
> [DEL] Deletion request on Commons:
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Tarotcards.jpg
>
> [UNDEL] Undeletion request on Commons:
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Undeletion_requests/Archive#File:Tarotcards.jpg
> This discussion will probably be moved soon, so please try this link if the
> above doesn't work:
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Undeletion_requests/Archive/2013-03#File:Tarotcards.jpg
>
> [TN] Examples of files marked for deletion:
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tarot_Nouveau_-_Diamonds_-_Knight.jpg
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tarot_Nouveau_-_Trump_-_21.jpg
>



-- 
John Vandenberg

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