Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 05:53:14AM -0400, Walter Landry wrote:
> > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > So this solves most of the issues, and we need to go through the QPL
> > > 3b again, but upstream feels it is a reasonable clause, and would
> > > like to keep it.
> > 
> > I'm sure that anyone would love to have that kind of term in a
> > license.  It still feels non-free to me.
> 
> Sure, but there is much less consensus about this one, so if a handfull of
> people feel it is non-free, i doubt it will come into play.

I would consider it a fee.  It is even enshrined in US copyright law [1]

  The term "financial gain" includes receipt, or expectation
  of receipt, of anything of value, including the receipt of other
  copyrighted works.

Since all copyrights flow to the originator, I can't help but see it
as a fee for making modifications.

> > > Also the first modification, well, i am not overly confident that it
> > > is really needed, and i am sure my wording of it are abysmal, and i
> > > ask for some help here in finding some nice and concise wording
> > > which doesn't divert to much from the original. The old wording was :
> > > 
> > >   a. Modifications must not alter or remove any copyright notices
> > >      in the Software.
> > > 
> > > And i changed it to : 
> > > 
> > >   a. Modifications must not alter or remove any copyright notices
> > >      in the Software except by adding new authors.
> > 
> > If I'm converting an interactive program to be non-interactive, I
> > still can't remove a hard-coded copyright string that pops up in an
> > "About" box.
> 
> Bah. I doubt this is what was meant here, and i doubt this is going to be a
> problem all over.

If you don't think that is what is meant, then change the wording to
say that (preferably, remove it).  Otherwise it is just lawyerbait.

Regards,
Walter Landry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[1] http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#101

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