On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 02:00:24AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > With a limit of 8,000 or 10,000 bytes, the GNU Emacs Manual would easily > fail. The GNU Manifesto itself easily blows past those limits.
Then it would've been a better example to look at for the purposes of determining a byte count, wouldn't it? > > Again, the things wrong with your proposal are: > > * a byte limit is not helpful at best, and more likely actively > > counterproductive. > I have proposed several times to get rid of it. > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Uh, you're the one writing these new guidelines, you don't have to "propose" to change them, you just have to change them. If you're going to, fine, do it. > > * considering non-binding text from the license separately > > to binding text in the license is unnecessary and overly > > awkward. > I have proposed also to get rid of that. Likewise. > I am not convinced the GNU Manifesto should be explicitly grandfathered. > In any event, it's not less than 1,000 words. It's approximately 4,300. It's also 25629 compressed-whitespace-bytes. There's around 4MB of stuff in /usr/share/emacs/20.7/etc on my machine, with a mixture of licenses. If you count just GNU (the GNU Manifesto) and WHY-FREE, neither of which allow alterations, you get some 36991 compressed-whitespace-bytes, which'd declare our emacs packages non-free. I've been using << tr '[:space:]' ' ' | tr -s ' ' | wc -c >> to work out my compressed-whitespace-byte counts, for reference. Is the idea here to make minimal changes to answer the "But the GPL itself is non-free!" FAQ and to allow various bits of free documentation into main, or are we trying to make emacs non-free, or what? If the former, then your proposal has effects beyond what you're trying to do, and if the latter, well, I'm not convinced that's a worthwhile goal to pursue, personally. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. "Security here. Yes, maam. Yes. Groucho glasses. Yes, we're on it. C'mon, guys. Somebody gave an aardvark a nose-cut: somebody who can't deal with deconstructionist humor. Code Blue." -- Mike Hoye, see http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/armadillos.txt
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