On Tuesday 21 June 2005 19:44, you wrote:
> Hrm... You should have seen a speed *increase*, if anything.  The first
> thing that I wonder about is if you have a stock kernel or if you
> compiled it yourself?  I'm thinking that you may want to compile it
> optimized to your CPU.  (But if you have, well, nevermind.)  I have a
> PII 400 CPU, and I noticed a definite improvement in the 2.4 - 2.6
> upgrade.
>
> Next, try using "top" to see what all is running.  Use the "M" command
> to sort by memory usage, and see what processes are eating up memory.
> (Look under the "RES" column to see what the actual memory usage is.)
> You may find that there are some packages that you want to disable or
> remove because of the fact that they are running in the background (like
> you've already done with KDE.)

Hi. Can you check to see if I use something really that I shouldnt use at all?

THanks, and the RES column is that shows the "m" after numbers. Maybe stands 
for for MB? 

22318 root      15   0 43904  32m 5732 S  3.6 13.9  23:48.20 X
 3814 ben       16   0 48816  31m  21m S  0.0 13.3   2:15.27 kmail
 4052 ben       16   0 81496  22m  17m R  0.0  9.5   0:17.64 kopete
 2152 ben       15   0 27776  15m  11m S  0.0  6.5   0:20.47 kmix
30692 ben       15   0 32636  14m  12m S  0.0  6.3   0:22.40 knotify
 4037 ben       15   0 30020  12m 7832 S 24.8  5.3   0:32.65 gnome-terminal
22347 ben       15   0 17792  12m 7272 S  0.0  5.3   1:13.85 xfce-mcs-manage
30686 ben       16   0 26556  11m 9.8m S  0.0  5.0   0:08.34 kded
 3850 ben       16   0 25080  10m 8700 S  0.0  4.3   0:00.20 kio_file
 4140 ben       15   0 49728  10m 8696 S  0.0  4.3   0:00.39 kio_pop3
 4142 ben       15   0 49728  10m 8696 S  0.0  4.3   0:00.29 kio_pop3
22338 ben       15   0 15556   9m 6716 S  0.0  4.2   1:32.69 xfce4-panel
30684 ben       16   0 24764 9996 8548 S  0.0  4.2   0:02.08 klauncher
30679 ben       17   0 23464 9588 8004 S  0.0  4.0   0:02.13 kdeinit
24336 ben       15   0 24424 8972 5740 S  3.0  3.7   8:43.92 gkrellm
30682 ben       16   0 22788 8792 7716 S  0.0  3.7   0:01.60

>
> The third thing I would recommend is to increase your memory if at all
> possible.  It won't help directly with boot time, but it will help keep
> stuff from swapping out to disk, which will make things faster while you
> are using your machine.
>
Cannot do that unfortunately. I have 256, which is max.

> Last up is a faster HDD -- will help when stuff is swapped out.  When I
> upgraded my HDD I got a noticable speed increase when stuff was swapped
> out.
>
What I did to decrease the systems swapping tendency is I changed this

"cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
to check swappiness. This shows 60 by default. If reduced, the system will use 
RAM more and SWAP less. RAM is faster than SWAP. We set it to 10.

sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10

To keep this after reboot, we edit /etc/sysctl.conf and put

vm.swappiness=10"

> FWIW, I have a 400 Mhz PII laptop, with 352 megs of memory and a fast
> HDD.  I run WindowMaker, Evolution, Firefox, and Eclipse at the same
> time and have a reasonably responsive system.
>
> HTH,
> Ian
>
I am hoping to get a good responsive system as well. I hope some speedups may 
allow that.
> On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 18:13 +0200, Benedek Frank wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I am seeking info from other people who has slow laptops, or just know
> > how to save memory and CPU usage on a Debian system.
> >
> > I am an owner of a Sony Vaio PCG-C1VRX/K laptop, that has a Transmeta
> > Crusoe 600MHZ CPU, which is very slow in nowdays, but I refuse to change
> > it as I love it. I have a Centrino DELL laptop, but I dont use that much,
> > as I am just inlove with this thing, however I need it to be faster.
> >
> > I have a 2.6.11 kernel. I saw a major slowdown from when I upgraded to
> > 2.6 kernel, from 2.4. Even disabling Discover, I now only have Hotplug,
> > but boot time is still around 3 minutes. That is to console. From there,
> > I booted KDM and KDE, and my full boot time was around 4 minutes and a
> > little.
> >
> > I looked into smaller window managers, but finally I am using now XFCE,
> > which is ultra fast compare to KDE. I dont use KDM now anymore, I rather
> > log in with console and do a "startx" from there.
> >
> > However, still my boot time is unacceptable. Not even speaking when I try
> > to open Kmail or Openoffice, and Firefox. They take a loooooooong time to
> > boot up.
> >
> > Anybody has any more suggestions, how to make a speedy but usable Debian
> > laptop?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bence


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