On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Benedek Frank wrote: > On Wednesday 22 June 2005 11:36, you wrote: > > All those other k* programs are just useless helper apps to kde. Blow kde > > away, and that'll free up a bit. > > I have realized that. Actually, having the machine rebootet, with KDM and KDE > taken out of auto-start, I got a much prettier picture, and a responsive > system. ALready half-success. When I dont start this kmail prog, I have 140MB > free mem. Yes, more than half of what I have. Firefox eats up 20 or so. I
Firefox has a hideous memory leak, where is simply does not decrease memory usage after you close tabs, or move onto new pages. Seems to be related to images. After weeks of uptime, you may find firefox is eating 300M of virtual mem, despite only having one tab open, and to do *anything* seems to require a sweep through the entire memory set. So it thrashes around, and brings everything out of swap, and swaps everything back in, and does the hokey pokey. I hate firefox (why does it have to walk over the entire memory contents just to open a dialog? Oh, it's that stupid slow-as-treacle cross platform XUL stuff), and this bug has existed since day 0, yet no-one bothers about it. I think it also exists in plain mozilla. Yep, there's an ancient bug opened in bugzilla for it, along with a whole bunch of tweaks that seem only relevant for windows, and claims and counterclaims that it is fixed. This is a rare case where the KDE equivalent (konqueror) seems to do a better job. But the interface seems crippled, and it seems not nearly as powerful as mozilla/firefox, and it still pulls in all the kde crap, if I recall correctly. > still have 120 left. At that point, I start Kmail, and slowly, about one > minute it starts, and I will have 20 MB left. So it eats 100MB or RAM. That > is weird. One weird program. It starts all these programs with it > > kmail 30MB > knotify 14MB > kded 11MB > kio_pop3 (as many times as many POP3 accounts I have-each uses 10MB) > klauncher 10MB > kdeinit 9.5MB At least kio_pop3 is the same program just forked, so the extra dozen kio_pop3 (there's some other process that konq likes to fork off 30 copies of) don't use that much more. > This is unacceptable. I am looking for a NEW email client. I like a GUI email > client, that has features such as putting emails to the folders I want them > to go (filtering) and has support for more than one POP account. Any takers > on this? Will pine do this for me? Can it use the maildir format? pine's textmode. No idea what else to use. > > Seriously, get rid of the kde and gnome crap. You don't need it. It > > won't make your life any happier. And then you will look at the dribbling > > fools who keep on drooling over the eye-candy, and laugh at their constant > > need to upgrade to the latest hardware that only makes their room hotter > > (and fucks up the environment for the rest of us). And you won't need to > > upgrade your computer, because when it is not running crufty bloated > > crapware, it's plenty fast enough. > > > How can I get rid of KDE and Gnome? apt-get uninstall kde gnome ?? Something like that (`remove', not `uninstall'), but it will only save diskspace. To save memory, you merely need to just run another window manager as you are doing. -- TimC Kleeneness is next to Godelness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
