Hai Joachim, On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 05:03:40PM +0200, Joachim Zobel wrote: > I just wanted to add that there is also an emotional aspect to this. I > offered help and was ignored. So as a result I feel rejected with a > general "if they don't want me they can get on without me" shrug.
I feel you. Had the same experience coming into Debian and I've abandoned contributing to other projects on account of similar experiences in the past. So you're certainly not alone in feeling like this. > Also I am aware that this is _nonsense_ - no response probably means > there simply was nobody - the feeling of being rejected is still there. I'm glad you decided to reach out and share your experience instead of going for a silent exit as I'm sure many others do in this situation <3. I've been thinking about this overall problem for a while now. Since several technical solutions I've considered seem organizationally un-viable, for the time being anayway, I've been pondering starting a "Welcome Team". We would identify interactions of new people across the whole project by subscribing a bot to maaaaaany maling lists and as much of salsa as we can without getting hit over the head by admins ;-). Then flag and review those interactions that don't elicit a (human) response within some reasonable time and attempt to guide contributors to the right place to get help. Given the unfortunate fact we don't see that many newcomers anyway this doesn't seem like too impossible a task using some light email and salsa API tooling. I've been meaning to build something fun with mblaze(7) since I found it anyhow :-). Thoughts anyone? --Daniel PS: Attempting to move replies to d-project@ let's see if my email-foo is strong today.
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