Hi Otto, Quoting Otto Kekäläinen (2025-01-24 18:24:55) > Hi Jonas! > > > > If you don't like using Salsa or don't like reviewing Merge Requests, > > > then this call is probably not for you. However, if you want Debian to > > > grow and you want to welcome new contributors, or in general work in a > > > collaborative way towards ending single-maintainer packages, reviewing > > > MRs posted by others a great way to help out. > > > > That reads very strange to me: > > > > * If I want Debian to grow, then I want Salsa code reviews. > > * If I want to welcome new contributors, then I want Salsa code reviews. > > * If I want to work collaboratively, then I want Salsa code reviews. > > > > Conclusion: I must drink the Salsa cool-aid, or I am effectively caring > > about neither the project, my peers nor about collaboration. Not fully > > embracing Salsa makes me a selfish and conservative person. > > > > Please explain to me how I am failing to read correctly what you meant > > by that last paragraph I cite above, Otto, because I cannot believe that > > you are really arguing the above - I must be mistaken. > > > > Please help me assume good faith. > > First of all, thanks for maintaining 1000+ packages in Debian, which > is very impressive, and you clearly have a good workflow for yourself. > I am not asking you to change it. Please continue to maintain those > 1000+ packages :) > > My original message > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2025/01/msg00267.html and the > subject of this thread was to encourage people on this mailing list to > a) note that there are a lot of open MRs from people who want to > contribute to Debian (and also from existing DDs who want to have a > second pair of eyeballs), b) and that those who like using Salsa are > encouraged to spend some time on reviews (and not just on packaging > their own packages). > > I specifically wrote that chapter you quoted with the intent that > people who don't like using Salsa should ignore the message, or that > people who are ok using Salsa but haven't done code reviews should try > it out. I am sorry if it came off wrong. Maybe next time I should > start the message with something like "if you don't use Salsa, stop > reading", but that too could be viewed negatively from some angles. > > I wish we could all realize that anybody who cares enough about Debian > so invest time in these mailing list discussions are likely wishing > Debian a good future, and avoid negative interpretations. Thanks for > sharing your read and asking for clarification. Hopefully this reply > clarifies that there was no explicit or hidden blame. > > Again, thanks for contributing to Debian with over a thousand packages!
Thanks for clarifying, and sorry for (yet again) reading too much into what you are writing - as Antonio also pointed out to me. Also thank you for the kind words about my packaging efforts - for the record it is however an exaggeration by about 20%. NB! For anyone reading this: I would be delighted to collaborate more on the packages that I am involved in maintaining, so if you happen to have a favorite among "my" packages and want to help maintain it, then please do get in touch. Also, if you find a favorite but for some reason is not in the mood for collaborating with me in particular, then please reach out as well - I might be willing to let go of it. :-) - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ * Sponsorship: https://ko-fi.com/drjones [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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