On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 11:01:43PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 07:00:36PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 10:08:19AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:22:38PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> > > > They are planning to remove the --badname option from useradd, making
> > > > it impossible to even try UTF-8 user names, without patching useradd.
> > > 
> > > Or edit the passwd file (vipw), or use any non-passwd-file authentication
> > > mechanism, or use a different user management tool, etc.
> > > I think you're overemphasizing the importance of the useradd command
> > > here--it just acts as a convenience and sets some baseline policies;
> > > it's not actually essential for adding a user. If you don't like the 
> > > policy
> > > that useradd sets...just don't use it.
> > 
> > In the context of the whole thread, are you suggesting that adduser(1)
> > should be changed to use something other than useradd(8) under the hood?
> 
> No, I'm suggesting that rhetoric asserting that any adduser/useradd policy
> could constrain people is overblown because users can be added to the system
> without using either of those tools. The tools' policies should reflect what
> is safest and most sensible for the majority of users, but if someone wants
> to do something different there is nothing stopping them from doing so.
[snip more about adding accounts without useradd/adduser]

Thanks, that makes sense. Apologies if my reply came through as snarky.

G'luck,
Peter

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