On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:02:21 -0500, "Theodore Ts'o" <ty...@mit.edu>
wrote:
>On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 09:24:15PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> But things are moving by shadow upstream taking a user-hostile stance,
>> willing to take away freedom. I must be fine with that because I
>> cannot change it. But I don't need to like it.
>
>As a suggestion, we might make more forward progress if we assume good
>faith and accept that other people might have different priorities
>than others.  I could easily see shadow, being a security-related
>package, would consider encouraging something that could lead to
>security bugs or just other random breakage, as "user-hostile".

They are planning to remove the --badname option from useradd, making
it impossible to even try UTF-8 user names, without patching useradd.
And if I was in Chris' shoes, I would probably refrain from doing so
as well.

And shadow would be the canonical place to do the PRECIS normalization
at least for comparing usernames. That's something they wouldn't do.

>Perhaps at some future stable Debian release (not Trixie), we could
>enable it by default.

There won't be such an option for us to enable.

I need to be fine with that because I cannot change it. But I don't
need to like it.

Greetings
Marc
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