On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 09:56:44AM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> > Would I bother to go through NM now if the process were more
> > simplified/streamlined? Maybe, but probably not. As you noted,
> > priorities matter and it's entirely possible to be involved in
> > Debian without that (depending on what exactly you want to do of
> > course). There's quite a lot that doesn't require upload permissions
> > in the archive, and also quite a lot of amazing people with upload
> > permissions who are happy to help on the occasions it's needed.
> 
> The fallacy is to assume that just because someone contributed a
> patch, their next step is to quit their dayjob and become a full-time
> contributor.

I don't think "get upload rights to do the same thing but in an easier
way" is related to what you wrote.

Though I can see a point in this: if you can upload directly, we
implicitly assume you also have sufficient knowledge to upload a correct
thing, and that requires being uptodate on requirements and practices.
(This is not true for many DDs, unfortunately, but it's implicitly
assumed)

This also reminded me of another assumed thing: when someone is a sole
maintainer of some package, we assume that that person cares about that
package, expect certain commitment from that person and raise certain
barriers between the package and other people. At the same time, many
maintainers who in your words did not "quit their dayjob and become a
full-time contributor" touch the package less often than expected and may
even discard and forget it, without doing any official steps to record
that fact in the project. This is sometimes a problem.

-- 
WBR, wRAR

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