ma 2.12.2024 klo 21.48 Jeremy Stanley (fu...@yuggoth.org) kirjoitti: > > On 2024-12-02 19:09:33 +0200 (+0200), Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > > (non-subscriber; please keep me in CC whenever reply to this) > > > > ma 2.12.2024 klo 18.33 Andreas Tille (ti...@debian.org) kirjoitti: > > > Attracting newcomers > [...] > > From personal experience, jumping through hoops to become a DD, or > > even just a DM, in a situation where I only maintain a handful of > > packages and randomly contribute patches to other packages (or > > overhaul the packaging before handing the package over to its next > > maintainer) simply hasn't been worth the troubles. > [...] > > I'll just say you're not alone. I've been around the Debian > community since pre-Y2K and, if I'd cared, could probably have been > a DD rather easily when the requirements were little more than say > 'hi' and have enough DD signatures on your key.
The days when having enough signatures on your key and knowing Elmo on IRC. I remember. > Would I bother to go through NM now if the process were more > simplified/streamlined? Maybe, but probably not. As you noted, > priorities matter and it's entirely possible to be involved in > Debian without that (depending on what exactly you want to do of > course). There's quite a lot that doesn't require upload permissions > in the archive, and also quite a lot of amazing people with upload > permissions who are happy to help on the occasions it's needed. The fallacy is to assume that just because someone contributed a patch, their next step is to quit their dayjob and become a full-time contributor. I keep on thinking of Con Kolivas, who contributed a very popular Linux kernel patch while working as a paramedic. He didn't quit his dayjob. Worse, once it became clear that his immensely popular patch didn't fit the server-centric focus that prevailed on the LKML back then, he stepped back from software development altogether. I did something similar with Debian. I still primarily use Debian, I still maintain a decreasing number of packages but, otherwise, I really don't have the patience for ever trying NM again and, quite frankly, I purposely keep my distances from Debian politics and simply shake my head in disgust whenever yet another inconsiderate decision impacts the life of rank-and-file users. Martin-Éric
