Hi Sylvestre,

Quoting Sylvestre Ledru (2024-07-12 11:13:23)
> Le 12/07/2024 à 10:35, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
>> Quoting Birger Schacht (2024-07-12 08:17:12)
>>> On 7/11/24 9:55 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>>> Quoting Philipp Kern (2024-07-11 21:13:42)
>>>>> I'd - at the very least - would like to see a statement why a fork
>>>>> is necessary. Innovation can happen in forks. But they don't
>>>>> necessarily need to be in the archive to make a point.
>>>> dh-cargo is designed to repackage prepackaged code projects already
>>>> distributed through crates.io.  If you do an NMU where you include
>>>> the preferred form for distribution, you are kindly asked to stop
>>>> doing NMUs because that messes with how the Rust team deliberately
>>>> avoids tracking the actual source for the code projects
>>>> distributed.
>>>>
>>>> I listed in the ITP a list of features lacking in dh-cargo, which I
>>>> need for packaging Rust-based code projects in Debian from
>>>> preferred form for distribution source.  I do not need all of the
>>>> features for all of them, but some of them sometimes.
>>> This still does not answer the question why a fork is the better
>>> option instead of working with the people behind dh-cargo to
>>> integrate those features into the codebase?
>> I have tried but failed to work closely with the Rust team.  It was a
>> painful experience, and I would prefer not to elaborate in public.
>>
>> I nowadays work only loosely with the Rust team: To the extend that
>> they use the Debian bugtracker, we coordinate our packaging efforts
>> there, and my patches for their tooling have been publicly available
>> for the past two years, where I have maintained it structured so as
>> to be easy for them to cherry-pick back into dh-cargo/cargo as much
>> as they might find relevant, at the cost of my use of it being
>> cumbersome, and the code not really inviting for more innovative
>> changes.
>I didn't know that you were making patches easy to be cherry-picked.
>I would have tried otherwise
>> The Rust team has chosen to not cherry-pick any of my patches into
>> their tooling.  I have not strongly pushed for that, and expect
>> strong pushback if I tried:
> 
> I would be happy to take all your patches that makes sense.

Sounds promising.

A starting point is the last paragraph of this email (which was directly
targeted your email address, btw):

lists.debian.org/171260770946.146326.6707604887885287...@auryn.jones.dk

 - Jonas

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