On Tue, 09 Nov 2021 at 20:27:24 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 08:19:40PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > > I'm worried that by saying that unmerged is still supported in 12, we open a > > can of worms and just punt this down to yet another release cycle. > > No, unmerged will not be supported in 12. Having the ability to create > something does not make it supported.
That was my intention, yes. My intention when drafting the TC resolution was that unmerged-/usr Debian 12 'bookworm' systems should be technically possible but unsupported - similar to how downgrading packages is possible but unsupported, and configuring dpkg --path-exclude is possible but unsupported. If you contrive to create an unmerged bookworm system and then try to upgrade it, that is likely to fail, and that's on you to resolve. > > E.g., what exactly does this mean for backports? > > Stuff from backports is post-release, so requires a merged system. Yes, I think this is right. IMO you can't validly enable bookworm-backports without first upgrading to bookworm, by which time the automatic transition mechanism called for by the TC resolution should have taken effect. However, I think bookworm-updates and bookworm-security still need to cope with unmerged-/usr systems to the same extent that bookworm itself does, because it's valid to upgrade from bullseye to bookworm + bookworm-updates + bookworm-security in a single step. smcv