On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 07:56:48PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 08:24:03 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > > > On 9 Sep 2019, at 15:31, Bjørn Mork <bj...@mork.no> wrote: > > > > > > I for one, do trust my ISPs a lot more than I trust Cloudflare or > > > Google, simply based on the jurisdiction. > > > > While I still strongly agree with you on this one (even though I think all > > major ISPs here are scumbags, especially the incumbent), I still strongly > > think we should not have this debate here, and we should turn this around > > the usual Debian policy - to not send data to 3rd party without explicit > > user > > content and defaulting to not doing so. > > > How is this worse than what we're already doing by default, namely > sending the same data to whoever happens to be on the network, in > addition to whoever happened to be listed in an unauthenticated dhcp > response? (Which, if you're lucky, is your ISP, aka a 3rd party.)
The major difference is that third party is someone you've got a contractual relation with. If you're talking to CloudFlare, you don't. Good luck calling CloudFlare support when something goes wrong. -- To the thief who stole my anti-depressants: I hope you're happy -- seen somewhere on the Internet on a photo of a billboard