I pretty much agree with everything you just said. O. -- Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org>
> On 8 Aug 2019, at 20:34, Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> wrote: > > Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org> writes: > >> So, just to clarify… so, it’s ok to hate systemd, but it’s not ok to >> hate sysvinit (spaghetti of shell scripts)? > > Personally, I'd be happy if people would just stop hating on any free > software in general. Even buggy free software is someone's effort, > released into the world hopefully for our benefit. These conversations > would be so much easier to have if they were framed in terms of costs and > benefits, different use cases, and personal preferences, rather than > making supposedly-objective statements grounded in strong personal > opinions about the merits or worthlessness of some piece of software. > > Far, far beyond init systems, I wish we would be less denegrating and > dismissive even of small pieces of software with obvious problems that > people propose packaging. We can say that something needs various > improvements to make sense to include in Debian without hating on it. > Maybe that sort of positive and thankful attitude would then carry over to > larger and more controversial pieces of software. > > (And yes, I wish upstreams would take that same advice, but I know how to > preach to this audience and have less ability to preach to other > audiences, so....) > > -- > Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> >
