On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:59:08AM +0000, Sue Spence wrote: > On 2 December 2017 at 11:49, Holger Levsen <hol...@layer-acht.org> wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 12:32:29PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > URL is https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/ > > cd-including-firmware/ > > > > so who will make nonfree.debian.net and non-free.debian.net > > http-redirect to that URL? :) > > I'll be writing a blog post this weekend which links to it, if only for my > own sake. I get the joke of course, but Debian is free with or without the > firmware so I wouldn't set up such a redirect out of my own pedantic > notions of correctness, never mind everyone else's. :)
How about https://works-on-pcs.debian.org? :-) Personally, as a developer, I will say there is one benefit of being so user-unfriendly that the usable ISO is hidden under the beware-of-leopard sign, which is that it serves as a "you have to be this technically aware to install debian" barrier. As a result, we don't have the low signal-to-noise bug reports that are all-too-common on Ubuntu's launchpad.net. So if we want to reform our "FSF-ly correct freedom is more important than being friendly to novices" (and it's not clear Debian as a whole agrees with this sentiment), folks might want to consider that this probably means we will need to have more people doing bug triage. Personally, I think prioritizing users who just want to a working PC/Laptop over the FSF is the right choice, since I belong to the pragmatic wing of the Open Source movement, but I suspect I'm in the minority in the Debian community. Which is fine; I'll just continue to enjoy the high quality of most bug reports in the Debian BTS. :-) - Ted
