On Wed, Feb 12, 2014, at 11:28, Oleg wrote: > I'm using debian and i don't want to use systemd in any form (with > gnome3, etc).
So what? Should we stand in awe that you are Debian user? I certainly care about (well most of) the users of my packages, but this attitude makes me really angry and frustrated. Debian is a community project and we all have invested enormous amounts of our free time, employer time, etc. If you _WANT_ something to happen, you _HAVE TO_ invest _YOUR TIME_ (or money, I am quite sure that you would be able to get several DD on your paycheck, etc.). If you don't want to use systemd, then it's YOUR burden to make it happen. Expecting things to happen your way by just bitching around^W^Wcomplaining on the mailing list is so selfish from you that you should be ashamed of yourself. Just to give you an example. Although I think that the systemd is the best choice for Debian, I really admire Thomas Goirand for putting his money where his mouth is. He believes in OpenRC and he invested his own time to make it work on Debian (and kFreeBSD and Hurd). And I quite happy to support his effort within my packages with init scripts to make my packages work with alternative init systems (just no more of sysv-rc please). So if you want to have Debian installation without systemd, then go help him with OpenRC, help writing new openrc init scripts to replace old rusty sysv-rc script, etc. That's the way to go forward. Just don't expect other people to do it for you. And if you don't want to invest energy in something you believe in and you want just to complain, then with all due respect just shut up, please. O. -- Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org> Knot DNS (https://www.knot-dns.cz/) – a high-performance DNS server -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1392293782.19499.82933453.0de66...@webmail.messagingengine.com
