On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 09:05:48AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > I think this touches on - or possibly misses - a key point.
I don't think so. > I do not trust the systemd project to not do things I consider bad or > even insane, because they've already done such things, and they show no > regret or repentance over having done so. You're talking about yourself and none of what you say contains specifics. What bad and insane things have systemd done? It seems to be that you're ignoring that they attend almost every conference out there, discuss everything up front and hold loads and loads of presentations where they specifically ask for feedback. Saying "I do not trust": I think you have a level of expectation for systemd that is at a completely different level than any other project. > I've seen the same thing with the Mozilla project. > > I've seen the same thing with Microsoft. > > I believe all of those groups are acting in good faith, working towards > what they see as good goals, with good intentions, and I trust them to > continue to do that; based on the evidence of history, I no longer trust > that the result of that work will be - or, if it once is, will continue > to be - something *I* would consider good. You are not specific. Systemd is GPL. You can fork it, you can change it, there is no CLA. What do you mean?!? There are no specifics at all in most of the objections. Only a bunch of "I don't like it", while if you look at it objectively, it seems that the bar is different for systemd than it is for something such as coreutils. > As such, advice to "not be distrustful" seems to me to be lacking an > essential foundation. You're turning things around. I'm being specific and giving examples. Your answer is: "but I don't trust them". Ok, whatever, I concluded that already. -- Regards, Olav -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140211151508.gh24...@bkor.dhs.org
