]] Marvin Renich > I believe that systemd/GNOME upstream is intentionally coupling the two > in order to force adoption of systemd.
You're aware that GNOME and systemd upstreams are two completely distinct groups with (AFAIK) very little overlap between them, right? Even if one assume that they are intentionally coupling the two of them tightly, I fail to see a motive on the GNOME maintainers. They have no obvious interest in making systemd ubiquitous. > There are obviously others who do not believe this. If it is true, > however, I would consider it sufficient justification to both change > Debian's default DE and eliminate systemd as a candidate for the > default init system, regardless of any technical merits. I have no idea how you get from «GNOME upstream couples their software tightly to systemd interfaces» to «systemd should not be a candidate for being a default init system». GNOME upstream makes their own decisions on what interfaces they use. They choose to depend on particular interfaces, and they should carry the burden for that. Not the depended-on component. Also, I would personally be happier with switching the default desktop environment away from GNOME if that means they the Debian GNOME maintainers are more free to maintain the package as they believe best without being micromanaged in what they put into their dependency fields. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/m2a9hyjyit....@rahvafeir.err.no