2013/7/20 Paul Tagliamonte <paul...@debian.org>: > Yes. This. I was a pretty avid syatemd "hater", but having used it for a > solid 6 months, I can't imagine using anything else. I find myself > installing systemd as one of the first things I do when I get a new install. > > If you're laying down systemd criticism - *try* systemd for a month. Me too - I was never a "hater", I always loved the idea and concept of logind and systemd, but I was sceptical about the benefits of e.g. the journal and the dbus integration (and I also feared that too much functionality would be moved into PID 1). This has changed immediately after I started to use the features it provides :P I now run rsyslog and the journal in parallel, while I previously disabled it. I also just *love* the multiseat capacities systemd provides, and the separation of user-written units and distributor-provided systemd-units (you can still easily display differences by using a systemd-tool). And for developers of DEs, logind is just great ;-) (admittedly, I always hated ConsoleKIt ^^) Also, I don't find upstream very hostile - even the most stupid questions were answered with patience, and Lennart even resembled some of the concepts for me on IRC, when I asked some really silly questions about cgroups and the systemd design decisions about a year ago. The documentation is very good too (and now, since Google doesn not consider "systemd" a typo anymore, you can also easily find it online, if you don't want to install the manual pages) I would recommend trying systemd in a VM to see what changes it brings :-) (make sure sd is recent enough (>= 204)) Cheers, Matthias
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