Martin Wuertele <m...@debian.org> writes: > * Josselin Mouette <j...@debian.org> [2013-05-22 15:03]:
>> When you compare the time it takes to write an upstart job file or a >> systemd unit file, to the time it takes to proprely test it, I don’t >> think this argument makes any sense. If the only things we do for >> improving the distribution are to take stuff from Ubuntu because, well, >> it’s here, we might as well stop developing anything at all. > Actually it sounds like you propose to stop developing and take > everything from Redhat, Lennart, Gnome because it's there and they say > so. > Seems to me that luckily not everybody agrees with that approach (CTTE > #681834, CTTE #688772)... This isn't appropriate. I'm quite confident that Josselin is making informed technical judgements in what he views as the best interests of the project and the best technological direction for Debian. It's certainly fair game to disagree with him about the wisdom of that direction, but please don't level these kinds of accusations. There are a lot of people who choose to use systemd on its own merits. I know of green-field Linux-based projects with no vested interest in any choice that have chosen systemd purely on its merits (and others that have not). This is not one of those decisions where there's an obvious correct choice and everyone else is just not looking at the problem properly. The CTTE bugs you cite were about a difficult tradeoff between integration and flexibilty, with strong usability arguments to be made on both sides. Just because the CTTE ended up disagreeing with the initial choice of the GNOME maintainers doesn't mean that Josselin did anything wrong. It means that we have a governance process for making controversial decisions; that's what it's there for. It's not always obvious what decisions will be controversial in advance, and different people working on different parts of the project can, completely in good faith, view the relative merits of different tradeoffs differently. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87li76lthk....@windlord.stanford.edu
