Uoti Urpala wrote: >A related point which I think is very important is the effect of >Debian's decision on the larger community. Having Linux distributions >permanently split in systemd and upstart camps would have major costs >for the overall Linux community.
Actually, in the EU this is called antitrust and considered a good thing for a âmarketâ, also increasing innovation by open competition. >Systemd is already guaranteed to live, Yeah, in a proprietary RedHat world⦠>could easily switch to. Maintaining and extending such a split between >distros should be seen as a big negative, regardless of how upstart No, it should be seen as a bit *positive*, for the aforementioned reason as well as for reasons already seen on the list. >IMO essentially irrelevant distractions such as effects on marginal >systems like kFreeBSD shouldn't be brought up at all. Like it or not, but kFreeBSD *is* now part of the ecosystem. And I still think internal consistency is something desirable, so sysvinit should stay the default, with other init systems (yes this does include OpenRC) available for these who want to use it. >> As Debian, we have two different problems: >> 1. We need to decide which init systems we want to support, and how. >> 2. We need to decide which init system should be the default. We will have a GR about that. >I don't think it's at all obvious that it would make sense to support >more than systemd Debian is the Universal Operating System, not GNOME OS. If you want to develop GNOME OS, please do it as a Derivate or Blend, or something entirely separate. Really, reading this makes Rogerâs (IIRC) suggestion of removing it entirely all that more enticing⦠>fit-for-use maintenance of all three systems sounds like a rather costly I see it like with new ports: if a new init system wants to be supported, they should help the package maintainers along in providing support, while the individual package maintainers should be gently encouraged to actually include said patches. And sysvinit is still the gold standard. (I personally like BSD stuff more, but from what Debian provides itâs the least evil or rather the one most people can agree to work with.) bye, //mirabilos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/knhv7i$3vs$1...@ger.gmane.org
