On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:23 AM, Steve Langasek <vor...@debian.org> wrote:

> Upstart provides a PID 1 that is absolutely rock solid.  It's true that it's
> more complex than sysvinit, because it's more featureful;

The same is valid for the comparision of upstart vs systemd.

> And of all the concerns raised when Ubuntu (and Fedora and OpenSuSE)
> switched to upstart, "PID 1 is buggy and crashes" was not one of them.

With only Ubuntu being the remaining distribution sticking to upstart, while 
nearly everyone else has switched to systemd.

> This is not theoretical.  upstart has been PID 1 in Ubuntu since 2006.  It
> *is* absolutely dependable and reliable.

Upstart has had its problems, too [1]. And, honestly, the way this bug was 
handled left me with little confidence in upstart.

Adrian

> [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/557177

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