OK I have enough of this for the moment, do what you feel is right but I'm not convinced that some of the directions things are going are for the benefit of Debian, the blinkers seem to well and truely attached to some people.
To the people here who at least replied in a polite manner, thanks, and for those that see some of my points, maybe you have more time than me to follow them up. Looks like an uphill battle mind. I want Debian to be a key player, not an underdog or also ran, which some of you seem to be quite happy with. This annoys the hell out of me, Debian was once looked up to, now its "the one with apt". Anyway enough Jon __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com