Right I'm more awake now, its was late a night went I
sent my last mail.  A special thanks to Matt for his
reply ;-)

Right lets make this clear, I'm not here to push
Gentoo, I was originally responding to the original
question, is Debian losing users to Gentoo?  Rather
than bother arguing the point again, heres an
interesting link:

http://www.distrowatch.com/stats.php?1#04

The shows that the top 4 Distributions are:

1) Mandrake
2) Red Hat
3) Gentoo
4) Debian

Whats really interesting in this list in that a source
based distribution can make it into the top 5, the
others are nowhere near.  Anyway 'nuff said really on
that point I think.  I know its not exactly solid
figures, but interesting nevertheless.

Whilst its fine to say we don't care about this, and I
tend to agree on that point, if Debian slips more this
tends to mean less users.  Less users means less
testing, which means either a longer, God forbid,
period between stable releases, or a less stable
stable release due to lack of testing.  It could also
more less developers coming into the fold, which in
turn affects releases and packages that can be
offered.

Now that we have X 4.2.1 in testing, maybe its a good
time to do a point release? Get stable up to date, as
testing is fairly up to date and seems stable at least
on my boxes (x86).  Radical thinking I know ;-)

Whats really important here is not Gentoo and how its
doing today, but Debian and how its starting to be
perceived as outdated and outmoded and not the
techie's choice anymore. This seems to be forgotten,
but is more important than anything else.  You may not
care about people's perception, but that was due,
partically, to UNIX's down fall when MS turning up
with Windows.  Everyone perceived UNIX to be complex
and where quite happy to dump it in favour of NT. 
Perception, unfortunately, counts for a lot, technical
excellance gets forgotten.  Its crap I know, but that
the way of the world.

Jon



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