On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 07:05:57PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > I have no idea what you're trying to say with "moral harcelement", but no,
> 
> 
> I think the right word is "harassment". "Harcèlement" is the French
> word.
> 
> "harcèlement moral" is now an accepted reason for employees to sue
> their employers in France (and I would guess in many other countries)
> to define the situation where the employer (or one of the company's
> hierarchy members) puts some heavy moral pressure on one of the
> employees...most often with the said intent to have him/her leave.
> 
> Sensitivity on "harcèlement moral" has been very widely publicized
> recently in our country when the legal system and, mor eprecisely, the
> "Work Legal System" ("droit du travail") defined it very clearly.
> 
> The definition of it is very well bordered in the French law system
> and, with the agreement of my wife who happens to have "some"
> knowledge in Human Resource management (including the legal aspects),
> what happened between Sven and other members of the project certainly
> cannot define as "harcèlement moral". It falls under "normal"teamwork
> relationship and a very clear way to settle an internal crisis in a
> work team.

Even adding in this chosing the moment of personal fragility to act ? Also,
did you count the numerous times that Frans has tried to undermine my
knowledge and competence in the kernel team by patronizing and derogatory
remarks over those past 8+ month ? 

Do you also count how he pushed me to make that "i will stop any d-i porting
job" while i mother almost died of a respiratory crisis due to her loung
cancer, and how he ignored my plead for comprehensivenes to immediately kick
me of the debian project ? 

I think the issue is not as clear cut as you are claiming here.

> This is actually what I was trying to say to Sven...but it seems that
> I'm not heard at all.

Indeed, but if you confirm to me that the above is also acceptable practice, i
will not use this argument in the future anymore.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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