Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello Karl and Sam, > > During Debconf4, there has been some discussions within the d-i team > and some maintainers of Custom Debian Distributions (mostly > Skolelinux) about the status of the Debian package for shadow. > > As you have obviously noticed, I have NMU'ed the package four times > last month, mostly for l10n considerations. The installer team has built > a strong team of translators which have all made a huge work > for bringing a lot of translations to core d-i and the related > packages, including shadow.
And I thank you, it's been a mess. [Actually, this has been causing me to conclude that we probably need a mechanism whereby translators can cause new translations to appear outside of the structure of the "package" itself. > This is basically why I did these NMUs. I also fixed one or two > usability bugs in passwd.config but tried to be very conservative > there...(not enough, indeed, as I managed to break it once) > > The discussions we had lead to the conclusion that closer attention > needs to be done with this package. We're currently considering > building a project on alioth for the package maintenance so that more > people may help maintaining it....which of course includes you both. It's been difficult scare up the moral necesary to give it that much attention recently given that I don't believe Debian is ever going to successfully release a new stable. > This is not a takeover....or at least not yet (well, if we do not get > any answer, you may imagine some takeover will happen)....but a > proposal for a wider collaborative maintenance which should probably > benefit all of us. Well, no, if you tell a package maintainer that it "has been decided" that you're going to use infrastructure that the maintainer refuses to rely on, that is most certainly a takeover. > Indeed, several people over there in Brazil told me "just take over > this package, Christian". I don't want to, for two reasons: Nice of them to share their opinion with me. > -my shoulders are a bit not wide enough and I can't add all this > weight on them...:-) > > -I certainly don't want to be rude in any matter towards you and a > simple takeover *would* be rude Thank you. > What is your feeling about this? If you run short of time, please just > drop a very short word so that we can have an idea of where we > currently are going.... I very much would have liked to be part of the initial discussion, but I couldn't afford to make it to debconf4. Really, I think the right approach is to "throw away" the shadow codebase and replace it with something that isn't such a tangles mess of #ifdefs. Thorsten Kukuk at/with/and/? Suse seems to have made a good start at fixing the infrastructure for this stuff; see http://www.thkukuk.de/pam/ kcr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
