On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin <gaud...@debian.org> wrote: > > Hi > > In this mail I'll try to summarize the discussion we already had > about accomodation pricing and categories. The current proposal is in > the wiki: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Pricing > > Feel free to make editorial changes to make it easier to understand > directly in the wiki page but please discuss significant changes on-list > first. And please try to focus mailing-list discussions on the important > points and try to avoid drifting away to very minor points. I'm > convinced that we can have a productive discussion on list and come up > with a better proposal when working together. The current proposal is > work-in-progress and by no means finished. Please also consider that > silence on major points will be interpreted as agreement. So voice your > concerns now, if you are unhappy with the proposal. > > These are points we might still want to discuss further: > > * Should we combine or split payment for accommodation and food? > The current proposal does not offer an option to pay for food and get > sponsored accomodation or vice versa. This is to keep it simple. Some > people argued in favor of offering these as separate options.
Assuming that there aren't really alternate food options at the venue that I am aware of, I'd assume that combining makes the most sense, if it makes things easier. > * Which rooms should we expect to use for people paying a premium? > Which is the best accomodation category that should be free for > sponsored attendees? The current proposal sets this to "Medium > sleeping-bag room" (12-16 bed sleeping bag room) I defer to the judgement of those who have toured the facilities. > * How should we plan to use the biggest rooms, for now? > One proposal to make the big and medium sleeping-bag rooms more > comfortable is to not completely fill them. There has not been much > discussion about how many people would be OK yet and there is nothing > about this in the current proposal. But I think there is a general > consensus that we don't want to completely fill these rooms. There are > 159 beds in these categories. Only filling the these rooms to 2/3 of > their capacity would reduce to overall amount of available beds by 53. > How should Looks like your question got cutoff, but again I defer to folks who have toured the facilities. > * Should we allow sponsored attendees to (cheaply) buy a better room? > The current proposal also allows sponsored attendees to buy an > accomodation upgrade. Some people on the list thought this should not be > allowed. IMO there is consensus that sponsored people with special needs > should get a free upgrade to the lowest category that suits their needs. > So e.g. a person in a wheel-chair does not have to pay for being hosted > in a wheel-chair-accessible house or a woman requesting to be in a > women-only room does not have to pay extra for it if we decide to put > such women together in a room of higher quality than offered for free to > others. I'd say that sponsored folks with special needs should be have their special needs accommodated at no additional cost. Regarding paid upgrades, I have mixed feelings here, but I don't really see any clear "best" option for deciding allocations, so I again defer, but have a slight preference to allow it. > Once those points are decided, we need to finalize these aspects: > > * Pricing > The current prices are based on the assumption that we don't want to > earn money from selling these beds -- the prices are intended to cover > our costs. Some people thought that the prices for the upper categories > are currently too low. I have no issue raising prices for the higher levels. > * Budget considerations > No thorough analysis on the budget implications of the current price > proposal has been done. A rough comparison is at the bottom of the wiki > page. This shows that the professional and corporate fees including > accomodation are rather lower than in previous years. And that we would > need more than the usual number of professional attendees to earn the > amounts that the budget currently assumes. Input about this from the > finance team would be very welcome. > > * Category names > I think there is consensus to name the different categories after a > short description of what they offer. Similar or identical to the > "Alternate room description" on the wiki page. Besides finding names > that are well understood by all participants there is not much to be > discussed here anymore. Agreed > * Reservation system and payment method > I'd like to postpone discussions about these two questions. I don't > think they are very urgent at the moment. How long are you thinking about deferring? > Gaudenz > > -- > Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. > Try again. Fail again. Fail better. > ~ Samuel Beckett ~ > _______________________________________________ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
