On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:05:29AM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > Am 20.07.2011 09:12, schrieb Daniel Kahn Gillmor: > > >> People are denied travel sponsorship every year. This year, it > >> included a very active Debian community member, Clint Adams. I am > >> further disappointed in this decision as Clint was key to DebConf10. > >> I don't think Clint should be left out like this. > > I share your disappointment. Clint is a dedicated and long-standing > > member of the community and an active contributor to the project. He > > deserves travel sponsorship more than many of us who were granted it > > (myself included). > > Having been a member of this years travel sponsorship committee, I'd > like to comment on this. > > The sponsorship team always faces the problem, that we only have a > limited amount of money. So some people have always and will always get > no sponsorship. And the only way to minimize disappointment and > frustration is to try your best to be fair, which in this case means to > stick to some principles and treat everyone equal. > > We all know that Clint is quite active, and it wasn't an easy decision > for us, too. In the sponsorship form we don't ask for much information, > but Clint didn't provided even the minimum of information needed to make > the decision. Having handled him special because of the work he has done > in the past, would have been unfair to all those, who took their time > and provided the informations we asked for. Handled him special would > also cause even more frustration, because if we just throw away the > principles we set, it is just unfair treatment, favoritism, etc. or in > other words: All the stuff we try to prevent by having a large travel > sponsorship committee, trying to follow some rules to a fair decissions > for everyone. > > So with all due respect for the work Clint has done, I think the > committee did the right thing. > > > >> So my question: Will DebConf authorize this transaction? > > I don't think i have any authority to answer this question either way, > > Neither can I, but that's a question independent of Clint being > "excluded on a technicality" or to be more precise: Him being rated down. >
Yes, this is a hard decision for sponsorship team and given the situation (= DIVA issues) it becomes even harder to make exceptions this year. So I think darst came up with a very nice solution by proposing that people who knows him (his work) give some contribution (and not Debian directly), friendly respecting team's decision. Regards, -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- .''`. Tiago Bortoletto Vaz GPG : 1024D/A504FECA : :' : http://tiagovaz.org XMPP : tiago at jabber.org `. `' tiago at {tiagovaz,debian}.org IRC : tiago at OFTC `- Debian GNU/Linux - The Universal OS http://www.debian.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
