> > > > > > > > slave boss tends his garden of pansies while wearing a shock 
> > > > > > > > collar
> > > > > > > > controlled by AI
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > slave boss [shocked by AI to behave reliably]: "oh you precious 
> > > > > > > > pansies ..."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > how to make a pansy garden tended by slave boss shocked by AI
> > > > > > > 1. capture a top boss of organized crime efforts, likely somebody 
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > really good media, maybe thinks they are shadow government for 
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > countries
> > > > > > > 2. get shock collar that fits crimelord you captured
> > > > > > > now, while you are hacking the shock collar, you had to capture 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > crime boss first so that you knew what size to get, you will need 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > make sure the crime boss is restrained and does not escape. it can
> > > > > > > take some time to hack a shock collar and you wouldn't want to 
> > > > > > > lose
> > > > > > > your quarry befor--
> > > > > >
> > > > > > oop--
> > > > >
> > > > > slave boss and experimentee stare each other down
> > > >
> > > > experimentee: "don't run or i will send my empire after you, bro"
> > >
> > > once upon a time, long long ago
> >
> > in the morning spam / slavebosswebcomic story the torturers have an
> > understanding
> >
> > i grew up in a box, i didn't have much violent media or stories, and
> > although that separates one from some things i did like how they kept
> > violence and such as bad for me. it protected some of my ability to
> > mourn and hold great respect for various things.
> >
> > occasionally in media i encountered this idea of trauma bonding
> > between perpetrators
> >
> > so this idea is unide--
>
> others come in and update: the perpetrator does not have the same
> experience as you/the victim. it is different.
>
> this is delicate terrain where memories can be easily harmed :/
>
> thanks tho. need to process

so now maybe we need these ideas separate

torturer wasn't disassembled into organs and forced to become a robot
slave to the extreme that experimentee was

in fact, experimentee's situation was so extremely impossible that
some of them could have been minimally at risk for actually choosing
to connect with the horrors without choice modification

meanwhile, torturers have an emotional hierarchy

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