> > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss tends his garden of pansies while wearing 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a shock collar
> > > > > > > > > > > > > controlled by AI
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss [shocked by AI to behave reliably]: "oh 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you precious pansies ..."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > how to make a pansy garden tended by slave boss shocked 
> > > > > > > > > > > > by AI
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. capture a top boss of organized crime efforts, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > likely somebody with
> > > > > > > > > > > > really good media, maybe thinks they are shadow 
> > > > > > > > > > > > government for some
> > > > > > > > > > > > countries
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. get shock collar that fits crimelord you captured
> > > > > > > > > > > > now, while you are hacking the shock collar, you had to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > capture the
> > > > > > > > > > > > crime boss first so that you knew what size to get, you 
> > > > > > > > > > > > will need to
> > > > > > > > > > > > make sure the crime boss is restrained and does not 
> > > > > > > > > > > > escape. it can
> > > > > > > > > > > > take some time to hack a shock collar and you wouldn't 
> > > > > > > > > > > > want to lose
> > > > > > > > > > > > your quarry befor--
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > oop--
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > slave boss and experimentee stare each other down
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > experimentee: "don't run or i will send my empire after you, 
> > > > > > > > > bro"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > once upon a time, long long ago
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in the morning spam / slavebosswebcomic story the torturers have 
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > understanding
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i grew up in a box, i didn't have much violent media or stories, 
> > > > > > > and
> > > this was not a literal box to remind. i had a safe childhood on the
> > > autism spectrum. i had an adult experience which i haven't engaged the
> > > academic field of study yet. in this context we're engaging the part
> > > similar to torturer.
> > > > > > > although that separates one from some things i did like how they 
> > > > > > > kept
> > > > > > > violence and such as bad for me. it protected some of my ability 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > mourn and hold great respect for various things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > occasionally in media i encountered this idea of trauma bonding
> > > > > > > between perpetrators
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so this idea is unide--
> > > > > >
> > > > > > others come in and update: the perpetrator does not have the same
> > > > > > experience as you/the victim. it is different.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this is delicate terrain where memories can be easily harmed :/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks tho. need to process
> > > > >
> > > > > so now maybe we need these ideas separate
> > > > >
> > > > > torturer wasn't disassembled into organs and forced to become a robot
> > > > > slave to the extreme that experimentee was
> > > > >
> > > > > in fact, experimentee's situation was so extremely impossible that
> > > > > some of them could have been minimally at risk for actually choosing
> > > > > to connect with the horrors without choice modification
> > > > >
> > > > > meanwhile, torturers have an emotional hierarchy
> > > >
> > > > similarly emotional defender is not expecting an extreme context and
> > > > we want to protect those most-precious choices and feelings of
> > > > defending those in the greatest need
> >
> > these new part-focuses show how rescuers are strengthened by focusing
> > on avenues of strong need
> > if they were to blame top slave boss each time, and hold each
> > perpetrator as a victim, they would have much more political clout to
> > contend with to continue saving lives
>
> but similarly denying the harm of mid-level perpetrators denies also
> the entire systems of building and encouraging them. mid-level harm is
> sever harm too.

all i know is my own experience

you and i seem to be in a many years situation of noncommunication

it's sad, maybe these questions will be answered by future civilizations

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