I don't agree. Valve has the only method to reliably track StatTrak counters, so creating similar system for skins shouldn't be _that_ impossible.
2015-09-25 16:08 GMT+02:00 Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < [email protected]>: > How do you effectively accomplish anything? It's impossible. So is > blocking these content exploits. The point is to concentrate effort into a > solution that is at least as beneficial as breaking the game with fixes > that can and will be worked around, a solution which also automatically > accounts for other exploits and abusive behavior that has happened so far > and will happen in the future. > You might as well whine about overwatch being useless then, because why > not make cheats impossible instead, valve? The same issue. > > > On 25.09.2015 15:58, Team dotjsp wrote: > > How can you effectively blacklist every ws or knife server? Without going > by sv_tag? > Am 25.09.2015 15:51 schrieb "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" < > [email protected]>: > >> It's neither. >> Plus, you can either have some exploit-fixes that don't work and break >> other useful things for EVERY single exploit there is, or you can just go >> ahead and focus on doing one task effectively, which is blacklisting >> servers. >> >> On 25.09.2015 15:46, Marcin Paterek wrote: >> >> "just dont do a Blacklist, just block the feature of changing the Skin >> without having it in your Inventory" >> >> That's a good idea - simple and effective. Upvote :) >> >> 2015-09-25 15:14 GMT+02:00 Team dotjsp <[email protected]>: >> >>> Or just dont do a Blacklist, just block the feature of changing the Skin >>> without having it in your Inventory, I couldnt think of a way that would be >>> any Problem for them. But after all it is what it is.. >>> Am 25.09.2015 14:12 schrieb "Absurd Minds" < <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]>: >>> >>>> I have always hated cosmetic or "fun" plugins like skin plugins since I >>>> first started playing 1.6, and I never even dreamed of using a knife plugin >>>> on either of my two sourcemod servers, but what I hate infinitely more than >>>> stupid skin plugins is how horrendously valve executed their blacklist. >>>> Half the blacklisted servers weren't even running the plugins, and I bet >>>> 2/3 of the servers that were running the plugins haven't been blacklisted >>>> yet. Every time I drop into a random community server it has these skin >>>> plugins. >>>> >>>> Basically what I'm saying is that knife plugins don't effect me AT ALL >>>> (my dream world includes valve fixing vote cvars on community servers so I >>>> don't have to use sourcemod anymore at all), and I'm still extremely pissed >>>> at how valve implemented this. They really need to either back up their >>>> threat effectively, or they need to allow community server owners to use >>>> the plugin again free of threat. >>>> On Sep 25, 2015 7:55 AM, "Tom Devonport" < <[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Last I checked, Valve said they were prohibited and started to ban >>>>> servers with them (through sv_tags if I recall effectively). Wasn't >>>>> particularly effective due to the false positives. >>>>> >>>>> Just face it, Valve doesn't care about community servers. They serve a >>>>> tiny proportion of the CSGO playerbase. It isn't their priority. StatTraks >>>>> are. >>>>> >>>>> Have you guys got those new StatTrak Music Kits yet? >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 at 12:47 Team dotjsp < >>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is there any statement on VALVe's opinion about these kinds of >>>>>> Plugins? I thought that the Plugin Developer himself discontinued to >>>>>> have a >>>>>> Downlink for these kinds of Plugins up. Or is there some kind of Takedown >>>>>> from VALVe, I didnt know about? >>>>>> Am 25.09.2015 13:32 schrieb "Michael Loveless" < >>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> There are tons of servers out there still using both plugins and >>>>>>> it's pretty shitty for those of us who stopped. I'm usually not for >>>>>>> telling >>>>>>> on others or getting involved in other peoples business but for all of >>>>>>> us >>>>>>> innocent owners who had servers banned for any length of time while >>>>>>> complying with the rules, I feel that now all server owners should be >>>>>>> held >>>>>>> accountable even if it means the rest of the community airing them out. >>>>>>> We >>>>>>> know Valve will take widespread action even if only a small number of >>>>>>> communities are not in compliance. Do we really need to instigate Valve >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> make life harder on community owners than it already is? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We already have a damn near non-existent drop rate and only $0.03 >>>>>>> cases 99% of the time. Every 3 updates the only administrative tools out >>>>>>> there get broken (Love you SourceMod <3). No more early warning notices >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> owners but TF2 gets them and so does the HLDS mailing list for the old >>>>>>> Half >>>>>>> Life engine games that still get updates, which they do. We can't sit >>>>>>> back >>>>>>> and let a small number of community owners who think they are renegades >>>>>>> ruin what little we have left. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If people don't want to be recognized for posting up other >>>>>>> community's names, just sign up to this list on a different email and >>>>>>> post. >>>>>>> Then you won't have to worry about the shitty owners out there DDoSing >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> in retaliation. Let's get rid of them before they fuck us like they did >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the good TF2 communities. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Ernesto Estrella < >>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There’s still a server still using the !knife and !ws plugin. 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