It's neither.
Plus, you can either have some exploit-fixes that don't work and break other useful things for EVERY single exploit there is, or you can just go ahead and focus on doing one task effectively, which is blacklisting servers.

On 25.09.2015 15:46, Marcin Paterek wrote:
"just dont do a Blacklist, just block the feature of changing the Skin without having it in your Inventory"

That's a good idea - simple and effective. Upvote :)

2015-09-25 15:14 GMT+02:00 Team dotjsp <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    Or just dont do a Blacklist, just block the feature of changing
    the Skin without having it in your Inventory, I couldnt think of a
    way that would be any Problem for them. But after all it is what
    it is..

    Am 25.09.2015 14:12 schrieb "Absurd Minds"
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        I have always hated cosmetic or "fun" plugins like skin
        plugins since I first started playing 1.6, and I never even
        dreamed of using a knife plugin on either of my two sourcemod
        servers, but what I hate infinitely more than stupid skin
        plugins is how horrendously valve executed their blacklist.
        Half the blacklisted servers weren't even running the plugins,
        and I bet 2/3 of the servers that were running the plugins
        haven't been blacklisted yet. Every time I drop into a random
        community server it has these skin plugins.

        Basically what I'm saying is that knife plugins don't effect
        me AT ALL (my dream world includes valve fixing vote cvars on
        community servers so I don't have to use sourcemod anymore at
        all), and I'm still extremely pissed at how valve implemented
        this. They really need to either back up their threat
        effectively, or they need to allow community server owners to
        use the plugin again free of threat.

        On Sep 25, 2015 7:55 AM, "Tom Devonport"
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        wrote:

            Last I checked, Valve said they were prohibited and
            started to ban servers with them (through sv_tags if I
            recall effectively). Wasn't particularly effective due to
            the false positives.

            Just face it, Valve doesn't care about community servers.
            They serve a tiny proportion of the CSGO playerbase. It
            isn't their priority. StatTraks are.

            Have you guys got those new StatTrak Music Kits yet?

            On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 at 12:47 Team dotjsp
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Is there any statement on VALVe's opinion about these
                kinds of Plugins? I thought that the Plugin Developer
                himself discontinued to have a Downlink for these
                kinds of Plugins up. Or is there some kind of Takedown
                from VALVe, I didnt know about?

                Am 25.09.2015 13:32 schrieb "Michael Loveless"
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>:

                    There are tons of servers out there still using
                    both plugins and it's pretty shitty for those of
                    us who stopped. I'm usually not for telling on
                    others or getting involved in other peoples
                    business but for all of us innocent owners who had
                    servers banned for any length of time while
                    complying with the rules, I feel that now all
                    server owners should be held accountable even if
                    it means the rest of the community airing them
                    out. We know Valve will take widespread action
                    even if only a small number of communities are not
                    in compliance. Do we really need to instigate
                    Valve to make life harder on community owners than
                    it already is?

                    We already have a damn near non-existent drop rate
                    and only $0.03 cases 99% of the time. Every 3
                    updates the only administrative tools out there
                    get broken (Love you SourceMod <3). No more early
                    warning notices for owners but TF2 gets them and
                    so does the HLDS mailing list for the old Half
                    Life engine games that still get updates, which
                    they do. We can't sit back and let a small number
                    of community owners who think they are renegades
                    ruin what little we have left.

                    If people don't want to be recognized for posting
                    up other community's names, just sign up to this
                    list on a different email and post. Then you won't
                    have to worry about the shitty owners out there
                    DDoSing you in retaliation. Let's get rid of them
                    before they fuck us like they did to the good TF2
                    communities.

                    On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Ernesto Estrella
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        There’s still a server still using the !knife
                        and !ws plugin. It’s not fair for other
                        servers that already removed them in respect
                        for you.

                        HellsGamers Jailbreak server -
                        
http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/67.228.245.10:27015/

                        When you type sm plugins list, you can see the
                        !knife plugin in the shop.

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