How can you effectively blacklist every ws or knife server? Without going
by sv_tag?
Am 25.09.2015 15:51 schrieb "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
[email protected]>:

> It's neither.
> Plus, you can either have some exploit-fixes that don't work and break
> other useful things for EVERY single exploit there is, or you can just go
> ahead and focus on doing one task effectively, which is blacklisting
> servers.
>
> On 25.09.2015 15:46, Marcin Paterek wrote:
>
> "just dont do a Blacklist, just block the feature of changing the Skin
> without having it in your Inventory"
>
> That's a good idea - simple and effective. Upvote :)
>
> 2015-09-25 15:14 GMT+02:00 Team dotjsp <[email protected]>:
>
>> Or just dont do a Blacklist, just block the feature of changing the Skin
>> without having it in your Inventory, I couldnt think of a way that would be
>> any Problem for them. But after all it is what it is..
>> Am 25.09.2015 14:12 schrieb "Absurd Minds" <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> I have always hated cosmetic or "fun" plugins like skin plugins since I
>>> first started playing 1.6, and I never even dreamed of using a knife plugin
>>> on either of my two sourcemod servers, but what I hate infinitely more than
>>> stupid skin plugins is how horrendously valve executed their blacklist.
>>> Half the blacklisted servers weren't even running the plugins, and I bet
>>> 2/3 of the servers that were running the plugins haven't been blacklisted
>>> yet. Every time I drop into a random community server it has these skin
>>> plugins.
>>>
>>> Basically what I'm saying is that knife plugins don't effect me AT ALL
>>> (my dream world includes valve fixing vote cvars on community servers so I
>>> don't have to use sourcemod anymore at all), and I'm still extremely pissed
>>> at how valve implemented this. They really need to either back up their
>>> threat effectively, or they need to allow community server owners to use
>>> the plugin again free of threat.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015 7:55 AM, "Tom Devonport" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last I checked, Valve said they were prohibited and started to ban
>>>> servers with them (through sv_tags if I recall effectively). Wasn't
>>>> particularly effective due to the false positives.
>>>>
>>>> Just face it, Valve doesn't care about community servers. They serve a
>>>> tiny proportion of the CSGO playerbase. It isn't their priority. StatTraks
>>>> are.
>>>>
>>>> Have you guys got those new StatTrak Music Kits yet?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 at 12:47 Team dotjsp <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there any statement on VALVe's opinion about these kinds of
>>>>> Plugins? I thought that the Plugin Developer himself discontinued to have 
>>>>> a
>>>>> Downlink for these kinds of Plugins up. Or is there some kind of Takedown
>>>>> from VALVe, I didnt know about?
>>>>> Am 25.09.2015 13:32 schrieb "Michael Loveless" <
>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are tons of servers out there still using both plugins and it's
>>>>>> pretty shitty for those of us who stopped. I'm usually not for telling on
>>>>>> others or getting involved in other peoples business but for all of us
>>>>>> innocent owners who had servers banned for any length of time while
>>>>>> complying with the rules, I feel that now all server owners should be 
>>>>>> held
>>>>>> accountable even if it means the rest of the community airing them out. 
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> know Valve will take widespread action even if only a small number of
>>>>>> communities are not in compliance. Do we really need to instigate Valve 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> make life harder on community owners than it already is?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We already have a damn near non-existent drop rate and only $0.03
>>>>>> cases 99% of the time. Every 3 updates the only administrative tools out
>>>>>> there get broken (Love you SourceMod <3). No more early warning notices 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> owners but TF2 gets them and so does the HLDS mailing list for the old 
>>>>>> Half
>>>>>> Life engine games that still get updates, which they do. We can't sit 
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> and let a small number of community owners who think they are renegades
>>>>>> ruin what little we have left.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If people don't want to be recognized for posting up other
>>>>>> community's names, just sign up to this list on a different email and 
>>>>>> post.
>>>>>> Then you won't have to worry about the shitty owners out there DDoSing 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> in retaliation. Let's get rid of them before they fuck us like they did 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the good TF2 communities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Ernesto Estrella <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There’s still a server still using the !knife and !ws plugin. It’s
>>>>>>> not fair for other servers that already removed them in respect for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HellsGamers Jailbreak server -
>>>>>>> http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/67.228.245.10:27015/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you type sm plugins list, you can see the !knife plugin in the
>>>>>>> shop.
>>>>>>>
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