Wow! Many thanks to Elwyn for his insights and great history lesson responding to the query relating to Morrisons in Kilskeery parish within the context of the Plantation and the possibility of locating families at that time. Wonderful to read the lengthy references and extracts from a number of publications; this must have taken quite some time and consideration. Many thanks, Elwyn,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 12 June 2020 11:22 AM To: James McKane<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: elwyn soutter<mailto:[email protected]>; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Morrison Family Name in Ulster 1610 - 1633 Rick, Ballyboe is from the Irish words “Baile bo” meaning “cow land.” According to Philip Robinson - “The Plantation of Ulster”, a ballyboe was “A small Irish land division which, before the plantation, represented the territory within which several families worked the land. Although the real area of the ballyboe varied greatly with the quality of the land, it was assumed by the plantation surveyors to contain 60 acres of profitable land in most areas of north-west Ulster. Many modern townlands have evolved from these ballyboes.” Not all land in Ireland was requisitioned by the Crown at the time of the Plantation. At least a third remained in the hands of local Irish landlords, normally provided they agreed to be loyal to the Crown. An obvious example would be the Maguires who had lands in Fermanagh. Chunks of land were declared forfeit following the 1641 uprising and reallocated. Details in the Down survey: http://downsurvey.tcd.ie/down-survey-maps.php Robinson spends some time discussing the origins of settler names in Tyrone, and to what extent Scottish undertakers had Scots tenants, and English undertakers had English tenants. The implication being that they originated in their landlords respective estates. However there was evidently a lot of mixing. For example on p122 he says: The evidence of Scots settling outside their allocated baronies of Strabane and Mountjoy is supplemented by a statement of Lord Audley’s in 1614 when he claimed that his estate of Finagh and Rarone in Omagh barony had as many Scots as English in it. Although there is considerable degree of continuity between 1630 and 1666 in the distributional pattern of British settlement, and indeed in the persistence of English and Scottish localities, the actual surnames on most estates did change dramatically. This turnover of personnel cannot be attributed simply to the ravages of the 1641 rebellion, for comparable changes can be observed between 1622 and 1630. A high degree of tenant mobility is a striking characteristic of plantation settlement, despite the continuity of settlement patterns.” He goes on to discuss colonial spread. “In 1622 the percentage of Scots on any Tyrone estate was closely related to whether or not the estate was Scottish owned, and only marginally related to the physical distance from Londonderry as the natural entry point for Scottish settlers. However by 1630 the gap between the statistical significance of these two factors had narrowed, and by 1666 it was the distance from Londonderry which was most significant. This supports the model of colonization outlined above, whereby the process of direct plantation, with subsequent internal migration operated simultaneously with that of colonial spread. Furthermore the contention that colonial spread became relatively more important than direct plantation with time is also supported.” (This continues for pages but you will hopefully get the general drift. Many settlers in Tyrone and particularly the Scots arrived via Londonderry and moved across Tyrone. Some stayed put and some moved about. After 40 years colonial spread meant that a significant percentage were no longer in the place where they first settled). Loughterush is in the barony of Omagh East. For me, the absence of Morrisons in that part of Tyrone in the Muster Rolls (ie c 1630) strongly suggests your ancestors must have there arrived after that. There’s only 1 Morison in Tyrone in the Muster Rolls, a Robert Morsion in Strabane barony. Perhaps your family were connected to him and moved south to Loughterush. So colonial spread? Your question is whether Audley brought the Morisons over? I doubt he brought them over himself because he appears to have acquired those lands from his uncle, Lord Castlehaven who was the original Undertaker. The family were from Petersfield in Hampshire. Morison is not a name particularly common in that part of England so that would make me doubt they were Castlehaven tenants in England. But I might be wrong. Elwyn On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 01:21, James McKane <[email protected]> wrote: > A search of the CoTyroneIreland.com Tithe Applotment Index shows this entry > > MORRISON Edward Loughterush Sloy Manor, Kilskerry 1826 > > > Jim McKane > Kitchener, Ontario > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 5:02 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I located a copy of the 1654-1656 Civil Survey that covers the townland >> of Loughterush in Kilskeery Parish … this obviously does not list the >> tenants names, only the owner … but there is interesting information >> there that for me begs some questions that perhaps some of you could help >> me with. I have attached the top page with the header that describes the >> area and names the owner, and then the page that lists Laghterish (older >> spelling or misspelling of Loughterush) among the townlands in his >> possession. >> Questions:1. Is there any reason to have confidence that Col. Audley >> Mervin would have been the one to have brought the Morrisons over to >> Loughterush? 2. Were all of the lands of Ulster apportioned out in the time >> frame around 1610, or did it take a longer period of time (ie, could Mervin >> have been granted his land after 1630?) He was also listed among those who >> came to the aid of Londonderry during the siege by James II in 1690, so he >> was not likely an original grantee in 1610.3.The total acreage for the >> townlands of Lisnahanna, Loughterush, and Derryvokenan (?) is listed as 65 >> acres … there is obviously a lot more than 65 acres there (even Irish >> acres) ; the Morrison farm alone was about 40-50 acres … could that be >> referring to only the amount of acreage under cultivation? >> Other items of interest: … I now know what a Balliboe is. >> … Based on the note in the left column of the first page, Audley was >> apparently among those protestant royalists who were penalized by Cromwell >> with the settlement act of 1652. >> >> Rick Smoll >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elwyn soutter <[email protected]> >> To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <[email protected]> >> Cc: rsmoll999 <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thu, May 21, 2020 9:27 pm >> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Morrison Family Name in Ulster 1610 - >> 1633 >> >> Rick, The surname, the general location and thefamily denomination all >> point to them being settlers who probably arrived inIreland in the >> 1600s. MacLysaght’s surnames of Ireland describesMorrison as “an English >> name numerous inUlster.” The location ie Tyrone, is a county heavily >> settled by Scots &English in that period, and the family denomination >> (Methodist in 1901) alsopoints to them being incomers. (They would almost >> certainly have been Church ofIreland – ie Anglican- in earlier times, prior >> to Methodism’s arrival inIreland). So in effect you have 3pointers to them >> being of settler origins. The Muster Rolls c 1630 show a number ofMorrisons >> in Ireland, and one in Tyrone, but none in the Barony of Omagh East(which >> includes Loughterush) so that points to a post 1630 arrival in >> theLoughterush area, if not in Ireland. It’s very rare to find any >> documentationfor the 1600s, unless you were an Undertaker or major land >> owner, or had landforfeit after the 1641 rebellion. Theearliest likely >> records might be in the Registry of Deeds which start around1709. If the >> family registered a lease or other significant document, thatsometimes >> gives you a date. Failing that, church records may help. KilskeeryChurch of >> Ireland records start in 1767 so you might find them there. For somepeople >> the tithe applotment records in the late 1820s/early 1830s are often >> theearliest records to be found. I searched the PRONI e-catalogue but see >> nomention there of Morrison in Loughterush other than in the tithes in >> 1826.There were no comprehensive records of when people first acquired >> land. Formost 17th century settlers, the first 150 years or so of their >> timein Ireland are lost in the mists of time. Elwyn >> On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 03:06, rsmoll999 via CoTyroneList < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Peter ... thanks for responding ... the links you sent are not working >> for me. I'll do some more hunting for those sites.Sent from my Sprint >> Samsung Galaxy S9. >> -------- Original message --------From: Peter McKittrick via CoTyroneList >> <[email protected]> Date: 5/21/20 8:43 PM (GMT-06:00) >> To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" <[email protected]> >> Cc: Peter McKittrick <[email protected]> Subject: >> [CoTyroneMailingList] Morrison Family Name in Ulster 1610 - 1633 A past >> Genealogical Society of Victoria (Australia) handout indicates that >> Morrison appears in Scottish names in Tyrone, 1610-1633 based on muster >> rolls and estate maps.Sources: Brian Orr, Plantation of Ireland >> and the Ulster Scots published on http://www.irishclans.com/ < >> http://www.irishclans.com/> Gwen Rawlings-Barry, >> The Ulster Plantation (1605-1697) published on >> http://www.canadasulsterscots.tripod.com/ < >> http://www.canadasulsterscots.tripod.com/> (website not found).Peter >> McKittrick> On 22 May 2020, at 10:23 am, Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList < >> [email protected]> wrote:> > Rick, My guess is that they >> could have been part of the plantation of Ulster in the 17thC. I >> suspect(based on my surname) that my ancestors may have been part of that >> event too but have not been able to find any records of who arrived from >> where and when. Any help (thanks Len S. for your earlier help) would be >> appreciated. Gordon> > On 22/05/2020 3:14 am, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList >> wrote:>> My Morrison ancestors occupied a farm in the Loughterush townland >> (Kilskeery Parish) from at least the mid 1700s until 1970 when the last >> Morrison on the farm passed away (he was a bachelor), and the farm was sold >> at public auction. The earliest ancestor I have found records for was >> Edward Morrison, and the earliest reference to Loughterush was with the >> birth of a daughter of his in 1781.>> My question is: Is there a way to >> find out when the Morrisons first came to occupy the farm in Loughterush?>> >> Thank you for any help on this.>> >> Rick Smoll>> >> _______________________________________________>> CoTyroneList Mailing >> List>> Mailing List Email Address: [email protected]>> >> Change Your Preferences: >> http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com>> >> Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY> > -- > >> _________________________________> Nereda & Gordon Wilkinson, Hyde Park, >> South Australia.> Web: >> www.ozemail.com.au/~neredon<http://www.ozemail.com.au/~neredon> >> <http://www.ozemail.com.au/%7Eneredon> Skype id: neredon> Emails: >> [email protected] [email protected]> >> > > _______________________________________________> CoTyroneList Mailing >> List> Mailing List Email Address: [email protected]> >> Change Your Preferences: >> http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com> >> Mailing List Archive: >> https://goo.gl/mQCKrY_______________________________________________CoTyroneList >> Mailing ListMailing List Email Address: >> [email protected] Your Preferences: >> http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.comMailing >> List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY >> _______________________________________________ >> CoTyroneList Mailing List >> Mailing List Email Address: [email protected] >> Change Your Preferences: >> http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >> Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CoTyroneList Mailing List >> Mailing List Email Address: [email protected] >> Change Your Preferences: >> http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >> Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY >> > _______________________________________________ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: [email protected] Change Your Preferences: http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY _______________________________________________ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: [email protected] Change Your Preferences: http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
