ManyFaces agrees with Nick that connecting on the right is better than 31
(with about 48% win rate).  It doesn’t like moving at 34, as Erik suggests.
After 34 (E6), it thinks white can win (55%) at H3, but this is too
optimistic.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Erik van der Werf
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:24 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to Zen!
> 
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:01 PM, "Ingo Althöfer" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > "Aja" <[email protected]>
> >> ManyFaces (White) still wins even if it loses the semeai but captures
> >> the J4 group of 3 stones. And it's not possible for Black to save the
> >> J4 group and win the semeai at the same time.
> >
> > Yes, that is exactly what the experts in the forum found.
> >
> > The question: Do the other bots see this as well,
> > and how early in the game do they see this outcome?
> 
> Sure, its easy for strong bots :-)
> 
> There are several ways to win in this position; no need to win the
> semeai. Even the J4 block can be traded for something like 2 points
> elsewhere (e.g., g4 & a6).
> 
> To win Black should have played 31 at 34. I think Nick's suggestion
> (between 32 and 35) is bad because the White group in the upper right
> corner is already dead.
> 
> Erik
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