In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don Dailey
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You also cannot score Japanese from just the board position unless you
have a prisoner count of both sides. This state has to be carried
either explicitly (by a bowl full of stones) or implicitly by a complete
game record.
So I suppose it's possible to have what appears to be 2 identical
positions with the same side to move in a finished game and have 2
different results, a won for white and a won for black.
What is to prevent someone from grabbing a few stones at the beginning
of the game and sneaking them into the dish later?
If I want to estimate my winning chances, am I allowed to empty out the
bowls and count the stones? Or am I only allowed to estimate this by
keen eyesight? Am I allowed to hide this part of the board state from
my opponent? Am I required to keep a running tally in my head?
I understand that some tournament rules require the players to keep
their prisoners in clear view of the opponent. If there are too many to
be counted as they lie in the lid, I would take this to mean that the
opponent is entitled to tip them out and count them.
Nick
Even though I've been assured that even good players don't really know
who is winning in close games (which I don't entirely believe), it
seems to me that it should be possible to at least calculate where you
stand by looking at the board and basing this on what you know for
sure.
- Don
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 18:56 +0200, Robert Jasiek wrote:
David Fotland wrote:
> Japanese rules' [...] the actual counting [...] The position is preserved
Japanese counting destroys the position by
- removal of dead stones
- filling in of (most) prisoners
- rearrangements of stones
- rearrangements of borders
- border stone colour changes
After the removal of dead stones, these counting methods do NOT destroy
the position:
- point by point counting
- point by point half counting
- some algorithmic virtual counting like flood-filling
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