Ok, I made some more space on the server - we should be good for a few more weeks.
- Don

Don Dailey wrote:
I'm trying to update the all-time ratings list for CGOS but I have a 1 gig limit on the server and CGOS has reached it. So I'm going to prepare this off-line. So it should be up later.

I'm not sure if CGOS will continue to operate during the week, but I don't have time to clean it up and I will be gone for the week. Hopefully, it will continue to run until I get back. I may be able to do some minor cleanups in order to help it continue.

- Don




Don Dailey wrote:


Hideki Kato wrote:
David Fotland: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
The scalability study showed that mogo gains almost 100 rating points per
doubling of performance.

But on CGOS, there is mogo 1 CPU and mogo 4 CPU. I would expect the 4 CPU mogo to be 150 rating points or more higher than 1 CPU. But it is actually
only 40 points higher.

I'm also wondering this for months.

One reason of this discount is that the MoGo bros running on cgos are the _big versions. By my obserbation (they are running on my pcs and both are Q6600/3GHz with different mother boards), mogo_big_4core's perallelism is around 300% (by top command), perhaps due to its heavier uct part (just my guess).

I guess this is because in the rating study mogo was mostly playing other mogo versions. A the faster mogo can see everything the weaker mogo sees,
and more.

I'm not sure. Mogo_big_4core's winning rate against mogo_big_1core is about 60% (1641 / 2743) which corresponds only +70 ELO and current rating difference on cgos is about 40, as you wrote. According to the scaling rule of mc playouts, it should be 160 ELO (log2(3) * 100 = 158.5).

But against other programs on CGOS, there will be weaknesses common to both
fast and slow mogo, that other programs might exploit.

Is the true scalability of mogo (against a variety of programs, or against
people) less than the rating study indicates?

I believe their current ratings on cgos indicate so.

You should look on the All Time Ratings list to get a more correct picture. I will try to update it today but we still have 551 games on the all time list for mogo-big-4 core:

It shows    mogo-big-4core as 2563  +35  -35
and         mogo-big-1core as 2480  +24  -24


Also, don't forget that 4 cores are not as efficient as 1 core, so we shouldn't expect this to be as good as the 1 core version running 4x longer. I would expect it to be much better than 2x though - perhaps the mogo team can comment on that.

- Don



Hideki

David


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