Le mercredi 30 janvier 2008, David Fotland a écrit : > 3 kyu at this level is a lot for a person. I've know club players who never > got better than 9k, and people who study and play may still take a year or > more to make this much improvement. > > Many club players stall somewhere between 7k and 4k and never get any > better. >
Agreed 100% One example from one serious young guy (14yo) in my club. I think he is clever (outside of go), and serious and he "works" on go with 2 friends of his classroom, they discovered go together last year. They also read books and once a month or so have a 3d player who come to teach them... http://www.gokgs.com/graphPage.jsp?user=minoru I wish i could improve as fast as they are doing, and they are already stronger than some adults who play since years and don't improve anymore. Alain > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:computer-go- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:18 PM > > To: computer-go > > Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 Study - prior in bayeselo, and KGS > > study > > > > I wish I knew how that translates to win expectancy (ELO rating.) Is > > 3 kyu at this level a pretty significant improvement? > > > > - Don > > > > > > > > Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: > > >> Instead of playing UCT bot vs UCT bot, I am thinking about running a > > >> scaling experiment against humans on KGS. I'll probably start with > > >> 2k, 8k, 16k, and 32k playouts. > > > > > > I have a result on KGS. > > > > > > AyaMC 6k (5.9k) 160000po > > http://www.gokgs.com/graphPage.jsp?user=AyaMC > > > AyaMC2 9k (8.4k) 10000po > > http://www.gokgs.com/graphPage.jsp?user=AyaMC2 > > > > > > 160000po ... 20000po x8 core (8sec/move on Xeon 2.66GHz) > > > 10000po ... 5000po x2 core (2sec/move on Opteron 2.4GHz) > > > > > > (5.9k) and (8.4k) are from the graph. > > > > > > AyaMC2 has played 97 games in a day on average. (2sec/move) > > > I changed program 01/19/2008, but it is not stable yet. > > > On this condition, 7 days or more will be needed for stable rating. > > > > > > Hiroshi Yamashita > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > computer-go mailing list > > > computer-go@computer-go.org > > > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > computer-go mailing list > > computer-go@computer-go.org > > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/