> One thing computer chess has had for a very long time and is practically
> absent in Go is a rating list.   It's always been possible to identify
> who the best programs and where they stand relative to any other.  There
> are agencies that play hundreds of thousands of games constantly to
> track the progress and build accurate rating lists of the programs
> running on various hardware.
>
> Such a thing is a tremendous impetus for improvement.  Is there any such
> thing in Go?    If there is, I stand corrected.

Ok, I am playing hundreds or even thousands of games, not hundreds of thousands.
But this is what I am trying to do. In chess there are lots of people running 
private
tournaments on their personal computer like I do, in Go I am the only one?


- what I did:


On 9x9 soon some first 4200 games will be played between 8 programs
and I will publish the results in a few weeks.


Starting a new tournament with the strongest Go software available for 19x19
I did let play 300 games (100 games / pairing) with

GM = GoeMate 2001  by Prof. Chen, Zhixing - China
GP = Go++ v5.0  by Dr. Michael Reiss - England
MF = Many Faces of Go v11.0  by David Fotland - USA

Results:
                             
       GM    GP    MF   wins
                             
GM     -    54    92    146
                             
GP    46     -    83    129
                    -        
MF    08    17           25      

So far GoeMate ist the strongest Go program on 19x19


- what I plan to do next:

include other programs like
FunGo, WinHonte, GnuGo, Go Intellect
GoAhead, Dariush, SmartGo, Aya, ...

include handicap games

include some of the newest strong Go playing programs like
MoGo, CrazyStone, Valkyria, Suzie

include newer versions of the above programs
if I can get copies of these

publish the results and the games on a free info site
and have monthly updates of this ongoing tournament


Would be great, if this could help a little
making some of the Go programs stronger!

I see it was easier some years ago,
there were new programs only few in a year and
new versions of each only every couple of years -
but I am not sad about this having changed so much  :-)

I thought CGOS would be ideal for these purposes now
and for testing every new program and all the new versions
but why are there so few playing?
On 19x19 I saw GnuGo and Aya - but no program else
with more than 1000 games...

My earlier 13x13 tournament was a great success
and I hope my new 9x9 and 19x19 contests will also be
successful in order to have some of the best programs
interested in participating and my work becoming a
source of motivation for all programmers of Go playing software.

But even if I succeed with all my plans
all that I can do is just meant as another contribution to computer go
and never will replace or let alone be comparable to
the online play on CGOS or to Nick Wedd´s online tournaments
or to any other tournament.



Stefan


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