AntIgo does exactly this and I still get complaints. I think this is 
perfect manners on CGOS (none of the other bots have objected) but poor manners 
on KGS. It's less annoying, to be sure, but still annoying.
   
     People can get ticked off when it resigns too. They might want to see the 
game resolved and they don't appreciate a bot deciding for them.
 
     People want what people want.
 
- Dave Hillis
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: computer-go@computer-go.org
Sent: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: [computer-go] Useless moves in the endgame

A very simple approach works like this:

  1.  When winning very convincingly in Chinese,  play quickly.
  2.  When losing convincingly,  resign.

Your opponent, when losing has 2 options.  

  1.  If he is so concerned about etiquette,  he follows the
      lead of the program - he resigns.

  2.  He has the option to play it out which is his right.  
      But the computer might choose to accommodates him by 
      playing quickly.

There is no need to make such a fuss over how to implement
good play-out that is not rude or "unkind" if you implement
this simple thing as out-lined.     There is no need for a
human who is losing to complain about play-out - he has the
power to end it.   Likewise, the simplest protocol for the
computer is also to quit once it is sure it's losing. 

Playing more quickly when winning is a kindness - not a 
necessity for a program to implement - a way to be nice
to a human who wants to play it out even though he is
dead lost.   It's rude to pressure a player into stopping
if he wants to play it out.

I never understood why a human who is losing continues to
play out a game while complaining about the behavior of
the computer.   This is not a criticism of what Benjamin
said,  he made some valid points and it is interesting
to consider how a program might improve it's play-out
style as a cosmetic issue.
 
    
- Don



On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 17:07 +0100, Chaslot G (MICC) wrote:
> Mango passes as soon as the opponent passes two times in a row.
> Might this lead to bugs in some situations?
> 
> Anyway this is very nice for playing against humans and GnuGo. 

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