You anticipated my next question - the time control.

I was thinkin gof 30 minutes too.   Any feedback?

- Don


On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 21:10 -0800, David Fotland wrote:
> I'd like to see 19x19.  No one plays the game on any other board size than
> 19x19, so the other sizes are not very interesting.  The current strong
> programs are all tuned only for 19x19, and the patterns and strategy are
> quite different at other board sizes. 
> 
> Of course you should keep the 9x9 server running as well, since it's
> probably easier to tune algorithms on the smaller board size.  You probably
> want longer games at 19x19.  I'd like to see 30 minutes per side, since
> that's pretty typical for human games.
> 
> -David
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey
> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:49 PM
> > To: computer-go
> > Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS?
> > 
> > 
> > Did you have a specific size in mind?    It seems like a 19x19 server
> > would be the natural thing.
> > 
> > I could run the old server until I get the new one finished.  
> > 
> > - Don
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 20:29 -0800, David Doshay wrote:
> > > A few months ago I suggested a number of stepwise increases 
> > in board 
> > > size to see how the algorithms scaled.  It seems to me 
> > having just 2 
> > > data points does not say enough about how the MC (or any other) 
> > > algorithm scales, so I wanted to be able to graph some measure of 
> > > strength against increasing board size.
> > > 
> > > The responses showed some interest in the normal board 
> > sizes, but not 
> > > enough for me to think it was worth it to host the servers. 
> > Several of 
> > > the program authors indicated that they could only run one 
> > size at a 
> > > time, and I assumed that this meant that having multiple 
> > CGOS servers 
> > > would only detract from the usefulness of the 9x9, so I did 
> > not start 
> > > any other size of server.
> > > 
> > > If things have changed, I have the resources to be a CGOS-N host.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > David
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 11, Dec 2006, at 7:53 PM, David Fotland wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Hi Don,
> > > >
> > > > Clearly UCT and monte carlo is very well suited to 9x9 go.  It
> > > > works much
> > > > better than the traditional computer go algorithms, and 
> > it is much,  
> > > > much
> > > > simpler.
> > > >
> > > > Do you have any plans to set up a CGOS server for 19x19 go?  I'd
> > > > like to see
> > > > how well UCT/MC scales to 19x19 go.  I don't think it will work  
> > > > well at
> > > > 19x19, but I'd like to see some experiments to see if I'm wrong.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
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