> On Jun 13, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Paul Scott <psc...@skycoast.us> wrote:
> 
> Swift insinuates itself into the developer community with typical grandiose 
> marketing hype. But what practical value does it really offer? What failing, 
> besides a distaste of Objective-C by some — excluding myself — required a 
> whole new— really, a mishmash of other languages — programming language? 
> Further, what does Swift offer to those outside the Apple developer community 
> that would motivate them to adopt an open source Swift? At best, the answer 
> appears to be, “Not much.”

Bingo. Even after reading all the posts in this thread, I still don’t know what 
problem Swift addresses, and no one seems to be able to answer that question — 
not even Apple in its marketing hype. 

When I saw what ObjC had to offer over & above using just straight C, I was 
floored by the potential, and I haven’t been disappointed. It seems to me a 
near-perfect and quite pragmatic fit, especially for Apple development. The key 
here is “pragmatic”. It pretty much fits hand-in-glove with all aspects of 
modern software development (not just for Apple devices), especially with the 
recent (evolutionary) extensions to support ARC, GCD, blocks, and the like.

Seriously, I still don’t understand what Swift is all about. Maybe it’s just me 
but I can’t get past the feel that it’s an unoriginal mish-mash of poor 
ingredients (python, Ruby, C#, etc.) If it were clearly a major step forward, 
evolutionary or revolutionary, I think I would be seeing it by now.

-Carl


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