On Jun 12, 2015, at 18:31 , Roland King <r...@rols.org> wrote:
> 
> I would start learning Swift. […] It’s where the puck is going at least for 
> Apple OS programming

I strongly agree with you here. At the risk of sounding like I’m suffering from 
WWDC intoxication, my reaction to what I’ve seen in this week’ videos is that 
Swift is now so much more compelling than Obj-C (a language I love, still) that 
there’s no contest. Swift also makes C# seem like a confused mess, even though 
both languages share a lot of concepts.

During the discussions we’ve had on this list, I’ve wondered if lurkers are put 
off Swift by the WTF moments we’ve been focusing on. In my (ongoing) experience 
with Swift, there’s an initial 3-week period of feeling confused, a 3-month 
period of feeling lost, and a 3-year period (perhaps) of retooling our brains 
for its new paradigms.

I also wonder if Swift is going to meet the Graham Cox test: “Will Graham use 
it?” I’m picking on Graham (without giving offense, I hope) because he’s a 
crusty (though lovable) retrovert who’s still doing manual memory management 
*just in case* ARC isn’t doing things right.



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