I do the same. 20 yrs on, I’m still renovating the house, but my Landfall 38 is in tip top shape 🙃.

/John

On Apr 18, 2025, at 12:03 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


When my wife asks what it will cost and how long it will take I come up with an estimate and double it before I answer.  I'm usually in the ballpark.

Joel

On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 11:54 AM Richard Bush via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Joe....Well said!

Richard

1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, (now back down to pool stage)....
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220
(502) 584-7255


On Friday, April 18, 2025 at 11:34:24 AM EDT, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


Having been on the shop end of the equation in the past, I can tell you boat jobs are enormously hard to estimate. I can, for one example, get the engine out of my boat in an hour flat. The next boat might have rusted and corroded bolts that take all day to get loose. Replace a battery charger on a Hatteras fishing boat? Maybe an hour except you have bolted-down furniture that covered the hatch so now I have toake half the interior apart and deal with the crappy job the furniture guy did with stripped out screw holes, etc, etc.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

 

 

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 11:05 AM
To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Packing Gland

 

Well, I am glad to hear that even professional mechanics end up taking twice as long as they think the job should take! I usually take about three times as long 

 

Bill Coleman

 

On Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 08:47 Robert Abbott via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

David:

Sorry but I have no idea.  I hired a marine mechanic...he initially quoted that it would be a 2 1/2 hour job but it actually took him about 5 hours.

Rob
AZURA
C&C 32 -1984
Halifax, N.S

On 2025-04-17 10:45 a.m., David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:

When I took my transmission apart last summer to try to replace it, I found that the coupler had been put on flush with the shaft end.  The new transmission I got required the coupler to be slightly offset so there was a depression for the transmission coupler to seat flush with the shaft coupler.  I have tried all winter to get the two nuts loose that hold the shaft collar in place and could only get one off.  I am giving up on that project for now and I suspect that even if I could get the nut loose, the coupler is likely to be unmovable, so likely would require replacing the shaft.  

I am curious, since you just did this if the shaft coupler was recessed?  My transmission consultant said they should always be put on so it is not flush with the shaft.  Do you know if yours was flush or recessed?  Dave

 

S/V Aries

1990 C&C 34+

New London, CT




On Apr 17, 2025, at 9:27AM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

 

Jeff
Took your advice and replaced the packing gland.  I hired a marine mechanic to do it as it did not look like a DIY job.  Good thing I did as he had to move the engine forward to get a puller to fit to remove the coupler.  The old hose was approximately a third as thick as the new one and the new hose is wire reinforced....the old one wasn't.
I had the boat since 2006 and had never replaced the packing gland.  if the new one lasts as long it will see the end of my sailing days.
Will look forward to seeing and waving to you in the NWR.
Regards
Rob
AZURA

On 2025-03-20 7:50 p.m., Jeff Nelson via CnC-List wrote:

I'd definitely replace it before it starts to come apart.  That said...

I replaced mine a few years ago 1979 C&C 30.  Guessing it was original.  There were cracks in the outer coating,
and I was starting to lose sleep over it.  So, that's likely pushing it to the extreme.  The hoses don't get a lot
of wear, aren't exposed to UV degradation, but have sea water and vibration to deal with.

You will have to pull the transmission prop coupler to get the new one on...If it was like mine last done
when it left the factory floor, you may need a new coupler as convincing it to release from the shaft may
damage it. 

Cheers,
  Jeff Nelson
  Muir Caileag
  C&C 30 - 549
  Armdale Y.C.

On 2025-03-20 17:43, Robert Abbott via CnC-List wrote:

Ed
Thank you for your response...I agree that replacing it is a prudent thing to do.
However, I am looking for a more definitive answer as to the prudent frequency of replacing it, e.g. # of engine hours, # of years, etc.  What is the normal expected life span of the this hose/gland that seals the prop shaft from water egress?

Rob

On 2025-03-20 4:26 p.m., Edward Levert wrote:

Robert

 

Change it on your next haul out. It is peace of mind. 

 

Ed Levert

Briar Patch

1981 C&C 34

New Orleans, La

 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 2:17PM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

My C&C 32 has a 1" prop shaft.  Where it enters the stern hull before
the packing gland, there is a hose gland approximately 6" to 10" long
with several large adjustable clamps around it that covers the prop shaft.
How often should that hose gland be replaced?  Is it # of engine hours,
# of years, etc.  Replacing it after it ruptures could be impossible if
the boat sinks which i understand to be the case.
Any advice greatly appreciated.

Rob Abbott
C&C 32 - 1984
Halifax, N.S.


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